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Date:      Wed, 20 Sep 2000 11:00:59 -0500 (CDT)
From:      Chris Dillon <cdillon@wolves.k12.mo.us>
To:        BSD <bsd@shell-server.com>
Cc:        bugs@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Constant panics on 4.1-STABLE!
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.4.21.0009201050370.12282-100000@mail.wolves.k12.mo.us>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.10.10009181841480.65514-100000@marvin.shell-server.com>

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On Tue, 19 Sep 2000, BSD wrote:

> 	I'm running 4.1-STABLE on a 700MHz Athlon with a 300W power supply
> (only recently did I learn that 250W wasn't enough), a single Maxtor
> 40.9GB hard drive (UDMA/66, 7200RPM), an Abit KA7 motherboard, with
> normally 768MBs of PC133 RAM (non-ECC).  An fxp0 device, and a generic PCI
> video card.  pci0: <Trident model 9660 VGA-compatible display device> at
> 13.0 irq 10.  There's a floppy drive, and a 2-fan hard drive cooling unit
> that mounts in the front of 5.25" slot which houses the maxtor via
> mounting brackets.
> 
> 	Even though 300W is considered the "minimum" by some for Athlon
> supplies, I think my minimal hardware should make it a stable option.
> 
> 	The multiple panics were in the following sequence:
> 
> 	1) Server is booted with all DIMMs, on a BP6.  PANIC.

The BP6 is a pretty solid 440BX based board, so I doubt that is the
culprit.  FreeBSD has no problems with this board or the PIII
you're using on it.  It's the memory.

> 	2) Server is booted with all DIMMS, on a KA7.  PANIC.

The KA7 is a VIA KX133 based board.  I have never found VIA chipsets
to be reliable.  However, it is probably the memory which is at fault.

> 	3) Server is booted with DIMMs #2 and #1.  PANIC.

Crappy memory.

> 	4) Server is booted with DIMM #1.  PANIC.

Crappy memory.

> 	5) Server is booted with DIMM #2.  PANIC.

Crappy memory.

> 	6) Server is booted with DIMM #3.  PANIC.

Crappy memory.

> 
> 	Anyone interested in helping me out here, can see the panic
> messages at the following url.  I'll post further panic captures there
> too, if they happen.  Panics 2-6 are listed in sequence on the website.
> 
> 	http://24.108.110.119/~eo/panics/
> 
> 	Thanks for any help!  Oh, and these panics can be as close as 12
> minutes and as far apart as 8 days (not the documented ones, but the ones
> I have had up to this point, with all 3 DIMMs in place).  You can see the
> uptimes for the documented panics at the bottom of the JPEGs.

I hate to tell you this, but this is most certainly a memory problem.
Get some memory that has been tested and approved by your motherboard
manufacturer for that board, and to be double-sure, make it ECC memory
and then enable ECC in the motherboard's BIOS.  If you STILL have
problems after that, then you can start blaming the problem on
something else.  The ONLY other time I have had problems like this is
when overclocking the processor.  You aren't overclocking those
processors are you?


-- Chris Dillon - cdillon@wolves.k12.mo.us - cdillon@inter-linc.net
   FreeBSD: The fastest and most stable server OS on the planet.
   For Intel x86 and Alpha architectures. ( http://www.freebsd.org )




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