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Date:      Thu, 6 Feb 2025 17:01:45 -0700
From:      Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com>
To:        Benjamin Kaduk <bjkfbsd@gmail.com>
Cc:        Maxim Konovalov <maxim@freebsd.org>, src-committers <src-committers@freebsd.org>,  "<dev-commits-src-all@freebsd.org>" <dev-commits-src-all@freebsd.org>,  "<dev-commits-src-main@freebsd.org>" <dev-commits-src-main@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: git: b7f2a457a883 - main - arch.7: grammar fixes
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On Thu, Feb 6, 2025, 4:17=E2=80=AFPM Benjamin Kaduk <bjkfbsd@gmail.com> wro=
te:

> On Tue, Feb 4, 2025 at 12:29=E2=80=AFPM Maxim Konovalov <maxim@freebsd.or=
g> wrote:
>
>> The branch main has been updated by maxim:
>>
>> URL:
>> https://cgit.FreeBSD.org/src/commit/?id=3Db7f2a457a883c8530c9b6111cee6a9=
88ce5b7249
>>
>> commit b7f2a457a883c8530c9b6111cee6a988ce5b7249
>> Author:     Maxim Konovalov <maxim@FreeBSD.org>
>> AuthorDate: 2025-02-04 20:26:53 +0000
>> Commit:     Maxim Konovalov <maxim@FreeBSD.org>
>> CommitDate: 2025-02-04 20:26:53 +0000
>>
>>     arch.7: grammar fixes
>>
>>     The "for hysterical raisons" was a nice one, though.
>>
>>     MFC after:      3 days
>> ---
>>  share/man/man7/arch.7 | 4 ++--
>>  1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
>>
>> diff --git a/share/man/man7/arch.7 b/share/man/man7/arch.7
>> index a3c875df0bff..796c6db7d299 100644
>> --- a/share/man/man7/arch.7
>> +++ b/share/man/man7/arch.7
>> @@ -352,7 +352,7 @@ userland interfaces relating to underlying hardware
>> platform
>>  differences in bus architecture, device enumeration and boot interface.
>>  Generally,
>>  .Dv MACHINE
>> -should only be used in src/sys and src/stand or in system imagers or
>> +should only be used in src/sys and src/stand or in system images or
>>  installers.
>>
>
> "system imagers" is a real term -- people or scripts who image (i.e.,
> install) systems.  I think "imagers" makes more sense than "images" here
> since the "system image" would typically be a static set of data and the
> imager is a thing that is potentially dynamic (i.e., needing to control
> MACHINE or behave differently depending on its value) and the system imag=
es
> that it produce do not gain any value from examining MACHINE).
>
>
>
>>  .It Dv MACHINE_ARCH
>>  Represents the CPU processor architecture.
>> @@ -414,7 +414,7 @@ in the top level Makefile for cross building.
>>  Unused outside of that scope.
>>  It is not passed down to the rest of the build.
>>  Makefiles outside of the top level should not use it at all (though
>> -some have their own private copy for hysterical raisons).
>> +some have their own private copy for historical reasons).
>>
>>
> I agree that "hysterical raisons" is fun but do not propose to revert tha=
t
> part.
>


This makes me sad, but I understand. It's a joke that goes back to the 90s
when I worked for Solbourne Computer in Longmont. It was in their sh(1)
manual page for why /bin/sh accepted ^ as an alias for |.

Warner

-Ben
>

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<div dir=3D"auto"><div><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote gmail_quote_contai=
ner"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, Feb 6, 2025, 4:17=E2=80=
=AFPM Benjamin Kaduk &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bjkfbsd@gmail.com">bjkfbsd@gmail=
.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"mar=
gin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr=
"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Tue, Feb 4, 2025 at 12:29=E2=80=AFPM Maxim Konovalov =
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:maxim@freebsd.org" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferre=
r">maxim@freebsd.org</a>&gt; wrote:</div><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><blockq=
uote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1p=
x solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">The branch main has been updated=
 by maxim:<br>
<br>
URL: <a href=3D"https://cgit.FreeBSD.org/src/commit/?id=3Db7f2a457a883c8530=
c9b6111cee6a988ce5b7249" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">ht=
tps://cgit.FreeBSD.org/src/commit/?id=3Db7f2a457a883c8530c9b6111cee6a988ce5=
b7249</a><br>
<br>
commit b7f2a457a883c8530c9b6111cee6a988ce5b7249<br>
Author:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Maxim Konovalov &lt;maxim@FreeBSD.org&gt;<br>
AuthorDate: 2025-02-04 20:26:53 +0000<br>
Commit:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Maxim Konovalov &lt;maxim@FreeBSD.org&gt;<br>
CommitDate: 2025-02-04 20:26:53 +0000<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 arch.7: grammar fixes<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 The &quot;for hysterical raisons&quot; was a nice one, though=
.<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 MFC after:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 3 days<br>
---<br>
=C2=A0share/man/man7/arch.7 | 4 ++--<br>
=C2=A01 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)<br>
<br>
diff --git a/share/man/man7/arch.7 b/share/man/man7/arch.7<br>
index a3c875df0bff..796c6db7d299 100644<br>
--- a/share/man/man7/arch.7<br>
+++ b/share/man/man7/arch.7<br>
@@ -352,7 +352,7 @@ userland interfaces relating to underlying hardware pla=
tform<br>
=C2=A0differences in bus architecture, device enumeration and boot interfac=
e.<br>
=C2=A0Generally,<br>
=C2=A0.Dv MACHINE<br>
-should only be used in src/sys and src/stand or in system imagers or<br>
+should only be used in src/sys and src/stand or in system images or<br>
=C2=A0installers.<br>
</blockquote><div><br></div><div>&quot;system imagers&quot; is a real term =
-- people or scripts who image (i.e., install) systems.=C2=A0 I think &quot=
;imagers&quot; makes more sense than &quot;images&quot; here since the &quo=
t;system image&quot; would typically be a static set of data and the imager=
 is a thing that is potentially dynamic (i.e., needing to control MACHINE o=
r behave differently depending on its value) and the system images that it =
produce do not gain any value from examining MACHINE).</div><div><br></div>=
<div>=C2=A0</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px =
0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">=C2=A0.I=
t Dv MACHINE_ARCH<br>
=C2=A0Represents the CPU processor architecture.<br>
@@ -414,7 +414,7 @@ in the top level Makefile for cross building.<br>
=C2=A0Unused outside of that scope.<br>
=C2=A0It is not passed down to the rest of the build.<br>
=C2=A0Makefiles outside of the top level should not use it at all (though<b=
r>
-some have their own private copy for hysterical raisons).<br>
+some have their own private copy for historical reasons).<br><br></blockqu=
ote><div><br></div><div>I agree that &quot;hysterical raisons&quot; is fun =
but do not propose to revert that part.</div></div></div></blockquote></div=
></div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"=
auto">This makes me sad, but I understand. It&#39;s a joke that goes back t=
o the 90s when I worked for Solbourne Computer in Longmont. It was in their=
 sh(1) manual page for why /bin/sh accepted ^ as an alias for |.</div><div =
dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Warner</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br>=
</div><div dir=3D"auto"><div class=3D"gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><b=
lockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px =
#ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><d=
iv>-Ben=C2=A0</div></div></div>
</blockquote></div></div></div>

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