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Date:      Sun, 03 Aug 1997 14:39:04 -0600
From:      Steve Passe <smp@csn.net>
To:        Tom <tom@uniserve.com>
Cc:        Andreas Klemm <andreas@klemm.gtn.com>, current@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Current is currently really a mess (was: Re: Tk/Tcl broken(?)) 
Message-ID:  <199708032039.OAA04677@Ilsa.StevesCafe.com>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sun, 03 Aug 1997 12:36:03 PDT." <Pine.BSF.3.96.970803123352.3843D-100000@shell.uniserve.com> 

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Hi,

> > Ok, I could switch to -STABLE, but would loose SMP support.
> 
>   I think it possible to boot a SMP kernel on a 2.2-stable system.  Some
> kernel structures have changed, so there may be some impairment.

Trying to run SMP on anything but 3.0 is a loosing situation.  I dont think
it is even possible.

On the general issue of loosing ports-current, I must say it is a big negative
for me.  While it is true that I am "capable" of dealing with the things
necessary to get some odd collection of code built and installed, the issue
is TIME.  For every hour I spend getting some utility I need working, its
one hour less I spend programming SMP.  I have always thought of the ports
tree as a mechanism for conserving time.  One person does the work to
port code to FreeBSD, then encapsolates that work into a port.  A HUGE
time-savings for all those that follow who don't have to do it all over
again.  If we loose ports-current there will be a lot more hours spent
by 3.0-current developers just getting the tools together they need.

On the tcl beta issue, I think we're forgetting that tcl has always been
a royal pain as far an the "version thing" is concerned.  Every time I turn
around I get bit by the wrong tcl header being in place.  Tcl is a problem
in and of itself that needs work.

Having said all this I will live with it I suppose...  I don't have the time
to work on the ports tree, and thus can't make any demands.  The people doing
the work have to be the ones with the final word.

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