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Date:      Fri, 17 Mar 2023 18:15:47 +0100
From:      =?UTF-8?B?VMSzbA==?= Coosemans <tijl@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Colin Percival <cperciva@freebsd.org>
Cc:        Mark Millard <marklmi@yahoo.com>, Current FreeBSD <freebsd-current@freebsd.org>, FreeBSD-STABLE Mailing List <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>, Baptiste Daroussin <bapt@FreeBSD.org>
Subject:   Re: I just updated to main-n261544-cee09bda03c8 based (via source) and now /etc/machine-id and /var/db/machine-id disagree ; more
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On Thu, 16 Mar 2023 16:48:40 -0700 Colin Percival <cperciva@freebsd.org> wrote:
> I think the current situation should be sorted out aside from potential issues
> for people who upgraded to a "broken" version before updating to the latest
> code -- CCing bapt and tijl just in case since they're more familiar with this
> than I am.
> 
> Colin Percival
> 
> On 3/16/23 15:55, Mark Millard wrote:
>> # cat /etc/hostid /etc/machine-id /var/db/machine-id
>> a4f7fbeb-f668-11de-b280-ebb65474e619
>> a4f7fbebf66811deb280ebb65474e619
>> 7227cd89727a462186e3ba680d0ee142
>> 
>> (I'll not be keeping these values for the example system.)
>> 
>> # ls -Tld /etc/hostid /etc/machine-id /var/db/machine-id
>> -rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  37 Dec 31 16:00:18 2009 /etc/hostid
>> -rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  33 Mar 16 15:16:18 2023 /etc/machine-id
>> -r--r--r--  1 root  wheel  33 Mar  3 23:03:25 2023 /var/db/machine-id
>> 
>> I observed the delete-old-files deleting
>> /etc/machine-id during the upgrade. It did
>> nothing with /var/db/machine-id .

delete-old deletes /etc/rc.d/machine-id, etcupdate deletes
/etc/machine-id.  I suppose delete-old could also delete
/var/db/machine-id but the file is harmless so I don't think this is
important for 13.2.

>> Also, modern hostid generation was switched to
>> random to avoid an exposure. But the update kept
>> the old hostid and propogated it (not "-"s) into
>> /etc/machine-id . So /etc/machine-id now has the
>> same exposure.

These files are meant to remain constant across reboots, so the update
process cannot change an existing /etc/hostid.  For example, it is used
by NFS servers to restore state when a client crashes and reboots.

If nothing relies on the old ID you can generate a new one by running
"uuidgen -r > /etc/hostid" and rebooting the machine.

>> Later I'll see if stable/13 also got such behavior
>> for its upgrade.
>> 
>> I've not been dealing with releng/13.2 but upgrades
>> from releng/13.1 and before likely have the same
>> questions for what the handling should be vs. what it
>> might actually be. Different ways of upgrading might
>> not be in agreement, for all I know.




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