Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2012 15:23:47 -0600 From: Mark Linimon <linimon@lonesome.com> To: vermaden <vermaden@interia.pl> Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD has serious problems with focus, longevity, and lifecycle Message-ID: <20120124212347.GB3528@lonesome.com> In-Reply-To: <ntdeyjkxkymiidebfrvp@xczn> References: <iwnlzjkfomlarmtwnxdp@dbyr> <vouizjmsitytcxxslori@esas> <20120122054903.GB12469@lonesome.com> <ntdeyjkxkymiidebfrvp@xczn>
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On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 12:24:22PM +0100, vermaden wrote: > It would also be good to have some wiki.freebsd.org page that > would describe what information is needed to fill a good PR See: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/problem-reports/ . Your suggestion to include things like dmidecode is a good one, and we should add those. > I still was (or at least felt) that was a FreeBSD newbie that time, > so I did not knew if my 'handbook part' was just rubbish, or stupid, > or ... whatever, no one responded, so I assumed that its not > needed/useless and moved along. I'm hoping that the forums are a better place for new users to ask questions these days, than the high-volume mailing lists. In theory it should be a more appropriate venue. (Having said that, I don't participate in the forums due to lack of time, but I understand there is a community of moderators and seasoned users on it.) > It would be also good to have a wiki.freebsd.org page describing > what is needed and in what format a user should send the > documentation changes Perhaps there should be a docs analogue to the following: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/contributing-ports/ doc folks, any takers? > I have now filled these PR's here: > > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=164431 > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=164432 Thanks. This makes these issues visible. > So its time for another article/page on wiki.freebsd.org, how to become > a committer and help to solve PRs' See: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/contributing/ http://wiki.freebsd.org/BecomingACommitter > how to add your mirror to FreeBSD project See: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/hubs/index.html So, let me add in conclusion, I'm willing to give a hearing to constructive criticism such as this posting. There are some good, concrete, suggestions here. If I've given the impression in my earlier response that I'm not, I'm sorry. OTOH I see a lot of non-constructive criticism go by and you'll have to excuse me for being rude to those posters. After the Nth posting like that it's simply too much for my patience. mcl
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