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Date:      Mon, 29 Jul 2002 21:10:00 +0100
From:      Nick Barnes <Nick.Barnes@pobox.com>
To:        Nick Sayer <nsayer@quack.kfu.com>
Cc:        freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: telnet "SRA secure login" fails intermittently 
Message-ID:  <25471.1027973400@thrush.ravenbrook.com>
In-Reply-To: Message from Nick Sayer <nsayer@quack.kfu.com>  of "Mon, 29 Jul 2002 10:03:36 PDT." <3D457568.9070704@kfu.com> 

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At 2002-07-29 17:03:36+0000, Nick Sayer writes:
> Nick Barnes wrote:
>  >[examples of the same password both working and not working with SRA 
> telnet]
> 
> Hi. I initially imported SRA into the tree. I see this periodically too, 
> and have since day one. I suspect when it picks its DH components there 
> is an occasional rounding error in there somewhere which ends up keeping 
> both sides from being able to agree. The only thing to do about it is 
> break the connection and try again.
> 
> SRA was imported when there was no other way to remotely access a newly 
> installed FreeBSD machine without exposing the root password at least 
> once (to do the make install on the ssh port). Shortly after SRA was in, 
> openssh was imported, which sort of made it a moot point. SRA's DH 
> constants are too small for today's CPU horsepower and it is vulnerable 
> to MiM (but then, so is ssh unless you actually verify the host keys 
> first using a trusted channel) and it is not extensible. But it is 
> better than plaintext.

Can you say some more about what SRA is?  It's not in the telnet or
telnetd man pages.  I would be happy to delve into the sources and
help fix this.  Maybe we should take this off-line.

Nick B


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