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Date:      Mon, 16 Apr 2001 12:39:56 -0700 (PDT)
From:      "Rodney W. Grimes" <freebsd@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net>
To:        kris@obsecurity.org (Kris Kennaway)
Cc:        ache@nagual.pp.ru (Andrey A. Chernov), cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: cvs commit: ports/www/mnoGoSearch-current Makefile
Message-ID:  <200104161939.MAA53486@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net>
In-Reply-To: <20010416121634.E10023@xor.obsecurity.org> from Kris Kennaway at "Apr 16, 2001 12:16:34 pm"

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> On Mon, Apr 16, 2001 at 09:06:23AM -0700, Rodney W. Grimes wrote:
> 
> > Also it seems as if -YOU- are the maintainer of apache, so please can
> > you go fix it's abuse of nobody:nogroup.  (Hint: running as nobody:nogroup
> > is _NOT_ the bug.)
> 
> Well, arguably it is, because people persist in making files owned by
> nobody, and since apache runs as that user a webserver compromise
> gives access to all those files.  If it ran as e.g. user www, then
> it's explicit which files it owns because that user is unlikely to be
> used randomly outside a webserver context.

I will agree that the running of of apache as nobody:nogroup is an
arguable thing.  But running it as www:www and having all the files
_owned_ and _grouped_ www:www only solves the NFS issue, and does
not address the other problem of having your webserver being able
to nuked it's own content via all too common cgi bugs.


-- 
Rod Grimes - KD7CAX @ CN85sl - (RWG25)               rgrimes@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net

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