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Date:      Sat, 19 Jan 2002 17:51:56 -0800
From:      Jordan Hubbard <jkh@winston.freebsd.org>
To:        Julian Elischer <julian@elischer.org>
Cc:        Mark Murray <mark@grondar.za>, "Andrey A. Chernov" <ache@nagual.pp.ru>, Dag-Erling Smorgrav <des@ofug.org>, cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: For all who miss it, PAM changes explanation reposted 
Message-ID:  <26372.1011491516@winston.freebsd.org>
In-Reply-To: Message from Julian Elischer <julian@elischer.org>  of "Sat, 19 Jan 2002 10:57:26 PST." <Pine.BSF.4.21.0201191055360.2065-100000@InterJet.elischer.org> 

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I agree.  I generally consider Mark a friend, but right now I just
wish he'd shut the hell up.  This kind of inflammatory exchange
doesn't help the project and it doesn't send the right kind of message
to anyone watching the exchange, as many people do.  Right now, their
opinion of FreeBSD is probably that it's run by meglomaniacs who
scream and yell until they get their way.  That's not why this project
was started and if I had a gun right now, I'd probably shoot both DES
and Mark in the name of the general good.

- Jordan

> Mark, try being more helpful.
> e.g. "note the paragraph stating with ..."
> and show your thoughts. it could be that there is a 
> language problem or a missaprehension about something.
> Include URLS etc. You are doing a lot of screaming and not a lot of
> helping here..
> 
> On Sat, 19 Jan 2002, Mark Murray wrote:
> 
> > > Please not say something like "read docs", it is totally non-informative.
> > > What docs? Which place in the docs exactly? Which part of my explanation 
> > > exactly cause "read docs" reaction?
> > 
> > src/contrib/libpam/doc/*
> > 
> > One for the three documents is a guide to writing PAM modules. In it
> > is a list of the allowable return values from various functions and
> > what those values mean.
> > 
> > If you prefer online docs, go to www.google.com, enter "linux pam"
> > (without the quotes), and hit the "I'm feeling lucky" button.
> > 
> > M
> > -- 
> > o       Mark Murray
> > \_      FreeBSD Services Limited
> > O.\_    Warning: this .sig is umop ap!sdn
> > 
> 


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