Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2003 12:04:25 -0600 (MDT) From: "M. Warner Losh" <imp@bsdimp.com> To: obrien@freebsd.org Cc: kientzle@acm.org Subject: Re: Can't build -CURRENT on 4.7 Message-ID: <20030607.120425.35796884.imp@bsdimp.com> In-Reply-To: <20030607175443.GD70196@dragon.nuxi.com> References: <20030607113546.GB98826@sunbay.com> <20030607.063011.59655139.imp@bsdimp.com> <20030607175443.GD70196@dragon.nuxi.com>
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"David O'Brien" <obrien@freebsd.org> writes:
: > First off, I'd like to say that's my understanding as well.
:
: That was not my understanding at all.
The last time it came it, it was specifically stated that it was until
the branch point. But so far the work arounds are fairly simple. I'm
not going to give you more grief about it.
: > Having said that, let's not get overly anal about the rules here.
: > There's still a great need to have current build on 4.x machines.
: > This is a long standing range war between ruslan and david over how
: > much compatibility should be there. I do not want to see it play out
: > in public again, but fear that it might.
:
: How is this a war? My elusion to "someone will probably patch the build
: system to tolerate it" is that I expected that RU would add something to
: -legacy or Makefile.inc1 so that the 5-CURRENT build worked 4.0. I don't
: believe anyone can infer I would get in "someone"'s way in doing this.
: We even have a freshly bumped __FreeBSD_version (501100) that can be used
: for this.
It isn't a war, yet. I'd like to keep it that way. There's some
history here that makes me fear. However, I'll put those fears away
and try to get a workaround that works.
: > I personally don't see that the addition of -std=gnu99 is enough of a
: > win in -current to justify its painful addition and the issue of
: > -stable compatibility is secondary to that. It's been added 3 or 4
: > times now and every time the world has broken on some architecture.
: > That alone is reason to treat the change with some skeptism as to its
: > correctness.
:
: And the TRB hasn't even responded to my or DES's emails on the topic.
: Note even a "hi, we got your message and will mull over it".
Noted. I'll go and re-read the trb@ request. It came in, and then
there was a flurry of commits so I thought it was OBE. I'll go look
into it.
: I (and another committer) had a agenda that DES's commit derailed and
: I'll be damned if I'm going to let it stop me given the amount of crap
: I've taken lately that has derailed every effort I've tried to make in
: FreeBSD for the past 2 months.
I'm not trying to give you crap here. I'm trying to point out that
there are additional concerns that come into play.
Warner
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