Date: Sat, 02 Nov 2013 09:01:56 -0500 From: Eric van Gyzen <eric@vangyzen.net> To: Matthew Seaman <matthew@FreeBSD.org>, freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Official FreeBSD Binary Packages now available for pkgng Message-ID: <527505D4.8060008@vangyzen.net> In-Reply-To: <5274EFD6.6030504@FreeBSD.org> References: <5271BC11.1010303@FreeBSD.org> <CACeEFf4Hif3WHufC=i08gbkXb6oC=4sxbyvO4FQnTkRWA7ZwnA@mail.gmail.com> <5272D0DE.4080209@FreeBSD.org> <CACeEFf79RZskefh6RzBhxkHuAWnGjPWRDr_JBTRUWcGH4ZNVTg@mail.gmail.com> <CAOjFWZ7BbdXYi3gQtTvCa3jqTmjOC-tt5bwV1GR8Jf=tOanT%2BQ@mail.gmail.com> <52745B7F.2080608@vangyzen.net> <5274B947.7030607@FreeBSD.org> <1680682c-dc77-4ee3-8e59-ee7356f307a3@email.android.com> <5274D90D.8040508@FreeBSD.org> <20131102113750.GG2951@home.opsec.eu> <5274EFD6.6030504@FreeBSD.org>
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On 11/02/2013 07:28 AM, Matthew Seaman wrote: > On 02/11/2013 11:37, Kurt Jaeger wrote: >> Hi! >> >>> On 02/11/2013 10:15, Matthias Andree wrote: >>>> I understand from Eric's pist that the issue is that through his >>>> limiting proxies, the SRV are not available at all so he does not even >>>> get to the point where he could get the pkgN.nyi.freebsd.org >>>> <http://pkgN.nyi.freebsd.org>; name back. >>> >>> That doesn't make sense. All the DNS SRV lookups on pkg.freebsd.org are >>> done internally to pkg(8), >> >> ... which only works, if the DNS server queried answers SRV queries >> with SRV values. >> >> Which is not always true, especially in heavily firewalled environments. > > I feel no obligation to do anything to encourage people that > deliberately break the DNS. They've made their bed, and now they have > to lie in it. Eric Camachat didn't break the DNS: his network administrator did. Matthew, you're right: that doesn't make sense. But people do it, often for security, either real or perceived. In this kind of environment, many other things are typically equally broken. I imagine Eric needs all the encouragement he can get. Yes, he can reconfigure pkg to use a specific mirror. I only suggest that it could be made to work without that manual step (and the research necessary to determine that step). Lest anyone think I'm complaining: I am very impressed with pkg, and I appreciate all the technical and non-technical effort that Bryan, Baptiste, and many others spent on making it real. Instead of a complaint, consider this a feature request. That is, after all, the expected response to a feature announcement. :) Eric (van Gyzen)
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