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Date:      Sat, 10 Oct 1998 11:23:26 -0500
From:      Richard Wackerbarth <rkw@Dataplex.NET>
To:        Mark Murray <mark@grondar.za>
Cc:        freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Future of -stable?
Message-ID:  <l03130300b2452afd8990@[208.2.87.5]>
In-Reply-To: <199810091845.UAA12915@gratis.grondar.za>
References:  Your message of " Fri, 09 Oct 1998 06:52:28 EST." <l03130302b243a08eb04a@[208.2.87.5]> <Pine.GSO.4.02.9810081809330.3021-100000@gwyneth.gric.com>   <l03130302b243a08eb04a@[208.2.87.5]>

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At 1:45 PM -0500 10/9/98, Mark Murray wrote:
>Richard Wackerbarth wrote:
>> I will again renew my recommendation that we drop "-Stable" as a "real" name
>> and instead make it simply an alias to the most recent branch that has been
>> so Christened. The "real" names would be 2.2, 3.0, etc.
>
>Huh? How will that change reality? The last "STABLE" was on the 2.1.N
>branch, and it has already been clearly stated that when 2.2.M is
>no longer supported 3.0.J will be "STABLE".

I'm not concerned about the CVS tag, but the other things that relate to
those tags.

We still use "-stable" for mailing lists, cvsup, etc. and, at the moment,
the supposedly "beta 3.0" doesn't even have its own RELENG_3_0 tag.

My concern is that there are going be transitions when 3.0 is neither "stable"
nor "current", but somewhere in between. The poor end-user should not be
required to jump through hoops to track the transitions.

If you are presently tracking the "HEAD" branch, you should be able to
switch, at your leisure, to an alternate "3.0" designation which, presently,
delivers exactly the same information. At some point in the future, the
paths will diverge. Those who choose to remain with the bleeding edge
development will go their merry way and the more conservative users will
follow the 3.0 branch as it matures.

Think of "tracking" as a train. With the current scheme, a user will either
be dumped at the end of the line or find himself heading toward the wrong
destination simply because he didn't change trains at the proper point.
However, if we administer it appropriately, when a the new user gets on
board, he can grab any available seat. Then, while the train is moving,
he can move to the car which is going to his desired destination. He
doesn't have to wake up in the middle of the night to change trains.

Richard Wackerbarth



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