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Date:      Wed, 13 Jun 2018 16:57:02 -0600
From:      Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com>
To:        Mori Hiroki <yamori813@yahoo.co.jp>
Cc:        "freebsd-arm@freebsd.org" <freebsd-arm@freebsd.org>, "freebsd-arch@freebsd.org" <arch@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: Armeb removal before 12
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On Wed, Jun 13, 2018 at 4:25 PM, Mori Hiroki <yamori813@yahoo.co.jp> wrote:

> Hi.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com>
> > To: "freebsd-arm@freebsd.org" <freebsd-arm@freebsd.org>; "
> freebsd-arch@freebsd.org" <arch@freebsd.org>
> > Cc:
> > Date: 2018/6/14, Thu 01:55
> > Subject: Armeb removal before 12
> >
> > I'd like to remove armeb before 12.0.
> >
> > It's poorly supported today.
> >
> > Nobody has tested the concurrency kit changes on it. And ck is now
> > mandatory. We don't even know if it works or not.
> >
> > Last time we asked, it took quite a while to find users.
> >
> > It maxes out at 256MB of RAM. This is barely large enough for FreeBSD to
> > run in.
>
> sys/arm/ralink target is only 16M of RAM. I use bridge on this target
> work fine.
>

Even with current? It seems to have grown a lot. Even FreeBSD 11 on my
atmel boards, the 32MB ones can't really do much of anything (though a
custom /etc/rc.d might be usable). The 64MB ones I have troubles logging
into without disabling a ton of stuff. And FreeBSD-current is even larger.

Are you using a custom rc.d in this setup?


> I have FWIXP422BB target(Planex BRC-14VG) with 32M of RAM. I never build
> FreeBSD for this target.
>
> I want build for FWIXP422BB but clang cross build is very slow. It take
> 7 hour on my machine.


I'm sorry to hear that. Even on my fast machines, it takes long time.

Warner



>
> >
> > The hardware was last made almost a decade ago.
> >
> > It uses non-standard non-mainstream boot loaders (boot technology has
> moved
> > on from redboot).
> >
> > The cost of doing API sweeps, make universe runs, etc exceeds the benefit
> > to the project.
> >
> > So, given all these factors, it sounds like a good candidate for
> retirement.
> >
> > Therefore, I'd like to remove it on July 15th.
> >
> > Comments? (please keep  them on topic to this specific thing: there's
> other
> > things that may also be past their freshness date, we'll discuss those
> in a
> > separate thread).
> >
> > Warner
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> >
>



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