Date: Wed, 06 Jan 2016 15:04:36 -0500 From: "Michael B. Eichorn" <ike@michaeleichorn.com> To: Sebastian Gniazdowski <sgniazdowski@gmail.com>, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: TERM=xterm lacking smcup and rmcup (alternate screen) Message-ID: <1452110676.9558.12.camel@michaeleichorn.com> In-Reply-To: <CAKc7PVAELPA3jUR6TfSZjc20ViOCsDHhxAeknN9Fb-GXfWphyw@mail.gmail.com> References: <CAKc7PVAELPA3jUR6TfSZjc20ViOCsDHhxAeknN9Fb-GXfWphyw@mail.gmail.com>
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[-- Attachment #1 --] On Wed, 2016-01-06 at 19:38 +0100, Sebastian Gniazdowski wrote: > Hello > I want to criticize an approach taken in FreeBSD regarding the > alternate screen. It's not available in newcons. One person wrote > that's because Tekken doesn't have such feature, and newcons > implements Tekken. > > That's maybe fine. However, newcons doesn't have it's own termcap. It > uses TERM=xterm, which normally has rmcup and smcup. Some smart > person > thus decided to remove those codes from TERM=xterm. You see what this > leads to? No alternate screen on X11. > > Why doesn't newcon create it's own termcap entry? Why nobody cares > about trashed xterm screens when fullscreen applications are exiting. > In my software I've wrote a special function to handle FreeBSD > nuance: > > https://github.com/psprint/zsh-cmd-architect/blob/master/zca#L65-L81 > > But this should be fixed, really. Newcons could ignore rmcup and > smcup. Why remove them from TERM=xterm, let newcons just ignore it. > FreeBSD could then still use TERM=xterm for its virtual terminal. > > Best regards, > Sebastian Gniazdowski Hi, Technical discussions like this are somewhat off-topic for this list. FreeBSD-questions is for 'user questions' and as such is primarily populated by users not developers. You probably want freebsd-hackers which is for 'Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD'. Regards, Ike [-- Attachment #2 --] 0 *H 010 `He 0 *H 000]0 *H 01 0 UIL10U StartCom Ltd.1+0)U "Secure Digital Certificate Signing1806U/StartCom Class 1 Primary Intermediate Client CA0 150613202446Z 160614003550Z0H1 0 U ike@michaeleichorn.com1%0# *H ike@michaeleichorn.com0"0 *H 0 UՀ,k9D %Z|Y6J<rrK g;&|uNlUE9)V.[ט̊:qS](#v SYDz* CpugYݔ,v<`j(w aS#ڒ6n(K5'KVLåErv< J=[}W bLA%gޭnVb| I?M7D :$׃bM_T[,ƃ\ 00 U 0 0 U 0 U %0++0 U jj: γ+39啖0 U #0Sr풜\|~5NԸQ0!U 0ike@michaeleichorn.com0LU C0?0; +70*0.+"http://www.startssl.com/policy.pdf0+00' StartCom Certification Authority0This certificate was issued according to the Class 1 Validation requirements of the StartCom CA policy, reliance only for the intended purpose in compliance of the relying party obligations.06U /0-0+)'%http://crl.startssl.com/crtu1-crl.crl0+009+0-http://ocsp.startssl.com/sub/class1/client/ca0B+06http://aia.startssl.com/certs/sub.class1.client.ca.crt0#U 0http://www.startssl.com/0 *H x+ȐF}pw.X vF?rg P]EOp)L˻yA ;hi0u2]m [Sbp$_ gr Xm*YP3 #H>mKAǠt)HO|=@} 3ӝ'iO81> 03 v'h5U "H;ECZtpҗ4rWHu^6+i*kJL8shAV|5;?HMc\ j[j|+000]0 *H 01 0 UIL10U StartCom Ltd.1+0)U "Secure Digital Certificate Signing1806U/StartCom Class 1 Primary Intermediate Client CA0 150613202446Z 160614003550Z0H1 0 U ike@michaeleichorn.com1%0# *H ike@michaeleichorn.com0"0 *H 0 UՀ,k9D %Z|Y6J<rrK g;&|uNlUE9)V.[ט̊:qS](#v SYDz* CpugYݔ,v<`j(w aS#ڒ6n(K5'KVLåErv< J=[}W bLA%gޭnVb| I?M7D :$׃bM_T[,ƃ\ 00 U 0 0 U 0 U %0++0 U jj: γ+39啖0 U #0Sr풜\|~5NԸQ0!U 0ike@michaeleichorn.com0LU C0?0; +70*0.+"http://www.startssl.com/policy.pdf0+00' StartCom Certification Authority0This certificate was issued according to the Class 1 Validation requirements of the StartCom CA policy, reliance only for the intended purpose in compliance of the relying party obligations.06U /0-0+)'%http://crl.startssl.com/crtu1-crl.crl0+009+0-http://ocsp.startssl.com/sub/class1/client/ca0B+06http://aia.startssl.com/certs/sub.class1.client.ca.crt0#U 0http://www.startssl.com/0 *H x+ȐF}pw.X vF?rg P]EOp)L˻yA ;hi0u2]m [Sbp$_ gr Xm*YP3 #H>mKAǠt)HO|=@} 3ӝ'iO81> 03 v'h5U "H;ECZtpҗ4rWHu^6+i*kJL8shAV|5;?HMc\ j[j|+040 0 *H 0}1 0 UIL10U StartCom Ltd.1+0)U "Secure Digital Certificate Signing1)0'U StartCom Certification Authority0 071024210155Z 171024210155Z01 0 UIL10U StartCom Ltd.1+0)U "Secure Digital Certificate Signing1806U/StartCom Class 1 Primary Intermediate Client CA0"0 *H 0 -).2AUGo#G B|NDRpM-B=o -we5JQpa>O.#._<V [~**pz~3WG .ᘟMlr[<Ce6fqO"uxfWN#uicgkv$Lb%y`_{`xK'GN 00U 00U 0 U Sr풜\|~5NԸQ0 U #0N @[i04hCA0f+Z0X0'+0http://ocsp.startssl.com/ca0-+0!http://www.startssl.com/sfsca.crt0[U T0R0'%#!http://www.startssl.com/sfsca.crl0'%#!http://crl.startssl.com/sfsca.crl0U y0w0u +70f0.+"http://www.startssl.com/policy.pdf04+(http://www.startssl.com/intermediate.pdf0 *H }x,\c^ #wMq}>UK/^yX֏y frMIŲB61ymQҨݬZ0& ;@#13qۑ& ̢o 6r_;GO>*I( 74XS1r3)!LJy6Kotˆ# _wSr ;B ADp(fs 䰷6%.W0J3:bC<8t X1<Cn=t==wST~\wkBf|15zUP)(IjVB!OfI=bb\4-*em/нSJm7N[]'@ڽ D9Kr>R7/|o^I@ټ'Pa $ z9a'L)( I}vcH]۸D*W} m>Q|C.(,lQ10{001 0 UIL10U StartCom Ltd.1+0)U "Secure Digital Certificate Signing1806U/StartCom Class 1 Primary Intermediate Client CA]0 `He 0 *H 1 *H 0 *H 1 160106200436Z0/ *H 1" x5'-%ҙ \6uֶֺJ >i0 +71001 0 UIL10U StartCom Ltd.1+0)U "Secure Digital Certificate Signing1806U/StartCom Class 1 Primary Intermediate Client CA]0 *H 101 0 UIL10U StartCom Ltd.1+0)U "Secure Digital Certificate Signing1806U/StartCom Class 1 Primary Intermediate Client CA]0 *H Xe=##ܿ9RiC>[AraK} nn}]֦ß1{ RH++Րlĩ{A$5#37ဗ7F^Y_ѼEOhKv5f- %@L7ZùUR E}\O BO*HRq^_i4u WL)Xg((=z$Ci)ZqSs.2Ŀ gZ!\help
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