Date: Tue, 05 Oct 1999 08:42:56 -0700 From: Darryl Okahata <darrylo@sr.hp.com> To: "Daniel C. Sobral" <dcs@newsguy.com> Cc: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Developer assessment (was Re: A bike shed ...) Message-ID: <199910051542.IAA16737@mina.sr.hp.com> In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 05 Oct 1999 19:51:19 %2B0900." <37F9D827.93D22E39@newsguy.com>
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"Daniel C. Sobral" <dcs@newsguy.com> wrote:
> Why the hell does the clueless newbie hordes expects any answer when
> posting a message to a list without reading the list charter and
> without a single clue of how the list works is beyond me.
No one's disputing this. In fact, I agree with you.
> Of course, that's no reason to be impolite to these newbies. I'm
> just explaining that they have no place here in this list, and
> that's that. It's not a newbies list. Now, if the newbie in question
> keeps inflicting his cluelessness upon us, he *will* get hammered
> back. That just happens when you keep annoying people.
There's the problem. While I agree with you about persistent,
annoying, and utterly clueless newbies, I don't agree with the apparent
sentiment (with which you may or may not agree) where all newbies (and
not just in -hackers) should be flamed and roasted. I've seen perfectly
innocent questions (asked once), from non-persistent/non-annoying
newbies, get flamed in -questions.
> I recall you complaining about being ignored three times.
Heh. It wasn't me complaining. You need to go back and read the
thread.
> > This is, believe it or not, a reasonable
> > question/belief/expectation. If it's really asked that commonly, why
> > not turn it into a FAQ?
>
> That's actually a good idea. Tell you what, you read the previous
> threads and prepare a good FAQ entry in docbook, send me the patches
> and I'll commit it.
I'll take you up on this, if you can guarantee that it'll show up
on the FreeBSD web page FAQ in a reasonable period of time (say,
preferably under two weeks, but definitely under a month). A couple of
years ago, I did submit some FAQ entries, which seemingly took a
geologically long period of time to appear in a useful location (the web
page). And this is why I stopped writing FAQ entries: if I write a FAQ
entry, I want it to be useful and made available to those who need it --
I don't want it to sit around buried in the repository, where only the
people who don't need it have access to it.
Of course, this was a couple of years ago, and things may have
changed. However, as the FreeBSD FAQ still appears to say that it's for
2.X (it's confusing, actually), perhaps not.
[ And, yes, I'm more than willing to submit proper docbook patches, if
they'll be made available to newbies (e.g., on the web page FAQ)
within a reasonable amount of time. ]
--
Darryl Okahata
darrylo@sr.hp.com
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