Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 20:57:00 +0000 From: =?UTF-8?B?6Z+T5a625qiZIEJpbGwgSGFja2Vy?= <askbill@conducive.net> To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Reproducible problems with re(4) on RELENG_7 and HEAD Message-ID: <47376C9C.50505@conducive.net> In-Reply-To: <bef9a7920711111232k201de0efjc38518cefebe0777@mail.gmail.com> References: <507457093.20071111190706@rulez.sk> <bef9a7920711111045r2d3be987k9d5f52a133dcaad4@mail.gmail.com> <47375ADD.2020001@conducive.net> <bef9a7920711111158k199ec3f0uf0e26d7cbf2345f2@mail.gmail.com> <473764D9.6060609@conducive.net> <bef9a7920711111232k201de0efjc38518cefebe0777@mail.gmail.com>
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Aryeh Friedman wrote: >> Has it recurred under 8-? > > Yes... but as I said I have had no error messages just random dropouts > and then reconnects after about 15 secs > > >> Can you 'make' it happen again? > > On demand no but everyday use yes. and off-list said: Aryeh Friedman wrote: >> Ok - here's what may be a slightly earlier rev on a Gigabyte GA G33-DS3R: > > For once you won't be accusing me of seeing ghosts ;-) It isn't about 'ghosts'. Its about thorough troubleshooting and reporting of the available facts vs the dollar under the tin-bin side-trips. The NIC and drivers are only a small part of the network environment. Long ago and far away, ethernet ran out of hard-coded MAC ID's (shorter at the time), so we assigned them by manual over-ride. As with setting up duplicate IP's inadvertantly, you can guess that there were problems. Recently I've run into Pegasus II chipset USB ethernet adapters with ... duplicate factory-assigned MAC addresses. Something I hadn't expected to need to watch for in over a decade. And only a problem if they show up on the same LAN, but - go figure - we had it happen on a 192 - internal subnet with just four machines, so... Then there are ARP caches not cleared fast enough when you migrate IP's, faulty routers, hubs, cables, shit-storms on the channel from *other* boxen that block your packets...and so on... None of which driver coders can do SQRT of FA about... Let's find out what we actually have here... 'More facts, please'.... Billhome | help
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