Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2004 19:26:03 +0200 From: Erik Trulsson <ertr1013@student.uu.se> To: sub01@freeode.co.uk Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Corrupt list archives? Message-ID: <20040709172603.GA60752@falcon.midgard.homeip.net> In-Reply-To: <4site0lii9blqbvd8nlu802shsbrs0q6ui@4ax.com> References: <dtfte05p8b3djcvtbp9o24fqpopbiakosj@4ax.com> <20040709162025.GG58856@dan.emsphone.com> <lmhte0168oth98cec085p30kj0jstdtv3t@4ax.com> <20040709164046.GA60260@falcon.midgard.homeip.net> <4site0lii9blqbvd8nlu802shsbrs0q6ui@4ax.com>
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On Fri, Jul 09, 2004 at 05:58:29PM +0100, John Murphy wrote: > Erik Trulsson <ertr1013@student.uu.se> wrote: > > >On Fri, Jul 09, 2004 at 05:28:39PM +0100, John Murphy wrote: > >> Dan Nelson <dnelson@allantgroup.com> wrote: > >> > >> >In the last episode (Jul 09), John Murphy said: > >> >> While browsing the freebsd-questions archives at freebsd.org and via > >> >> google, I noticed that corruption occurs, under some circumstances, > >> >> where "=" becomes "=3D" (3D is ascii for =) and some spaces are shown > >> >> as "=20". > >> > > >> >Sounds like quoted-printable MIME encoding. > >> > > >> >> The first instances of the problem (found via google groups) occurred > >> >> ~1994! The first archived in this list ~Feb. 2000. > >> >> > >> >> The same corruption can be seen in the mailing.freebsd.questions > >> >> newsgroup so it's not an http/html problem. > >> > > >> >Do you have a message-id of a message showing this? > >> > >> This URL: <http://docs.FreeBSD.org/cgi/mid.cgi?dtfte05p8b3djcvtbp9o24fqpopbiakosj> > >> shows the mess made of my original post. > > > >The archive shows your post exactly as it was sent. > > I'm amazed. "=" shows as "=3D" and "=3D" as "=3D3D" for me! > Hyphen hyphen space (sig separator) as "--=20". Yes, exactly. That *is* how your mails are sent. If you look at the headers of your mails they contain the line Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable which means that some letters are encoded exactly as you describe. Most mail-readers understand this format and automatically decodes those letters. > > >Your mails are > >encoded with quoted-printable, which does encode some characters as you > >indicate. The archive is not corrupted since it displays the mails > >exactly as they were received. > > The browsers I've tried are set to Western (ISO-8859-1). Irrelevant. > > >It would be desirable to have the mails in the archive converted from > >quoted-printable into standard 8-bit clean format, but no corruption > >happens. > > The apparent corruption must be visible to many users; can't be just me. Yes, anybody who looks at web-archives will see exactly what you describe, but the archives are not corrupted. The problem is rather that the archives don't understand the quoted-printable format, so the mails are displayed as they were recieved, instead of being converted into a more readable form. -- <Insert your favourite quote here.> Erik Trulsson ertr1013@student.uu.se
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