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Date:      Tue, 26 Jan 1999 15:43:54 +1030
From:      Greg Lehey <grog@lemis.com>
To:        FreeBSD Chat <chat@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   A successor to CSRG (was: 4.4BSD)
Message-ID:  <19990126154354.A93469@freebie.lemis.com>

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I picked this up in the PUPS (PDP UNIX Preservation Society) mailing
list.  Comments?

Greg

----- Forwarded message from Michael Sokolov <mxs46@k2.scl.cwru.edu> -----

> Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 22:23:32 -0500
> To: pups@minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au
> Precedence: bulk
>
> You know, if your interest is in resurrecting CSRG, my advice to you is not to
> bother with 4.4BSD-*, but to join Quasijarus Project instead. The break point
> in the history of CSRG was in late 1988. Everything after that is so far from
> True UNIX that I have decided to put a big X over it, turn the Universe clock
> back to that point (using my SCCS Time Machine), declare all of CSRG's
> post-1988 work "not really CSRG", and declare myself CSRG's true successor.
>
> If you look at my mail signature, you'll see that I'm the new official
> maintainer of Berkeley UNIX and the principal architect of its further
> development, known as Quasijarus Project. As far as I am concerned, 4.4BSD
> never existed except as a "side branch" from True UNIX, and the last True UNIX
> release from CSRG was 4.3BSD-Tahoe. I picked it up from that point and now I'm
> maintaining and developing it just as CSRG did until 1988. I am the true
> successor of true CSRG. If you want CSRG, here I am.
>
> BTW, it's not just that I suddenly declared myself to be the new CSRG. I earned
> this title, not just assumed it. Marshall Kirk McKusick himself (the previous
> maintainer of CSRG) acknowledges me as the new principal maintainer and
> architect. Oh, and he doesn't even object to my decision to undo all of his and
> others' 1988-1995 work with the SCCS Time Machine. He said himself in a private
> E-mail that he would love to see the golden old non-bloated system resurrected.
>
> I have used the term "True UNIX" several times in this message. Let me explain
> what I mean. While others may view the history of UNIX as a tree (you hear
> about UNIX history tree diagrams all the time), I view it as a straight line.
> The straight line of _mainstream_ True UNIX development looks like this:
>
> V6 (Bell) -> V7 (Bell) -> 32V (Bell) -> 3BSD (UCB) -> 4.0BSD (UCB) -> 4.1BSD
> (UCB) -> 4.2BSD (UCB) -> 4.3BSD (UCB) -> 4.3BSD-Tahoe (UCB) ->
> 4.3BSD-Quasijarus0 (Michael Sokolov) -> future Quasijarus releases (Michael
> Sokolov).
>
> For each release the responsible entity is indicated in parentheses. There are
> several things worth noting here. Notice how after V7 and 32V the torch of True
> UNIX development moves from Bell to UCB, never to return to Bell again. This is
> because everything Bell did after that (System V and such) deviates from the
> True UNIX ideology and loses the True UNIX torch. In late 1970s or early 1980s
> UCB picks up this torch and carries it until 1988. In 1988 UCB starts deviating
> from True UNIX too with the evil spirit of POSIX and everything, and loses the
> torch. The torch was laying on the ground from that point until the 27th of
> December 1998 when I picked it up with the 4.3BSD-Quasijarus0 release. Now I'm
> carrying it into the next millennium.
>
> Check out the Quasijarus Project WWW page referenced in my mail signature.
>
> Michael Sokolov
> TUHS 4BSD Coordinator
> 4.3BSD-* Maintainer
> Quasijarus Project Principal Architect & Developer
> Phone: 440-449-0299 or 216-217-2579
> ARPA Internet SMTP mail: mxs46@k2.scl.cwru.edu
> TUHS WWW page: http://minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au/TUHS/
> Quasijarus WWW page: http://minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au/Quasijarus/

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