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Date:      Mon, 19 Oct 1998 15:28:48 -0700
From:      Graeme Tait <graeme@echidna.com>
To:        Studded <Studded@gorean.org>
Cc:        FreeBSD-Newbies@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: upgrading notes
Message-ID:  <362BBD20.4B26@echidna.com>
References:  <19981019180600.39400@welearn.com.au> <362B79C3.EAA3607E@gorean.org>

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Studded wrote:
> 
> Sue Blake wrote:
> 
>         Overall I think this is right on, just a few comments.
> 
> > My suggestions for newbies are:
> >
> >  - Don't try to be first kid on the block with a new version.
> >    Let the expert and the gullible fall into any holes first.
> 
>         I would extend this to say, "Never install a FreeBSD -RELEASE." I don't
> remember the last time a -Release didn't create a bunch of errors due to
> last minute cramming in of things. Watch the -Stable mailing list (for
> 2.2.x) and wait for things to calm down a bit after the -Release and
> then install the latest -Stable.


Well, this business of FreeBSD versions certainly is confusing for this newbie. My 
understanding is that what gets issued with Greg Lehey's book is -RELEASE (mine 
being 2.2.6R).

So are you saying, don't use the CD-ROMs you get with the book???

Actually, are any of the CD-ROMs from Walnut Creek other than -RELEASE versions?


You are certainly right about errors in -RELEASE in my case. I spent ages trying to 
get an install off a Sony CD-ROM drive. The system concerned (an old 486 bought at 
auction) is flaky and contains off-brand interfaces, etc., and I thought it was my 
hardware. For this reason, I didn't want to trouble people with dumb questions 
about my problem. Finally I used a SCSI CD-ROM and all was well. It was only much 
later that I accidentally discovered on the web site a notice saying that the boot 
floppy image for 2.2.6R was broken with respect to the Sony CD-ROM support, and all 
I had to do was download a new boot image. Of course, I probably should have tried 
to find and read the release notes (or whatever it was) first, but as a newbie on a 
first install, there was so much information saturation that I just wanted to put 
on the blinkers and forge ahead.


It seems to me that from a configuration control point of view, any final changes 
to a version to become a release should be necessary bug fixes ONLY, and that 
ideally the version concerned should be not be labelled a "release" until it had 
survived a decent period of real-world use with ZERO changes. After all, it's going 
to be out there for some reasonable time period cast in poycarbonate. Those who 
want the latest and greatest can always download it in advance of the CD-ROMs being 
issued.


-- 
Graeme Tait - Echidna


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