Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 21:45:47 PST From: "Free Speech" <nofreespeechhere@hotmail.com> To: grog@lemis.com, nate@mt.sri.com, gme@inspace.net Cc: isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Web Page Restrictions Message-ID: <19971127054549.23369.qmail@hotmail.com>
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Oh! I can't believe it! When I come back after 2 days, I find the email I used was banned from this mailing list! Free Speech and Blue Ribbon can't be found here? FreeBSD has not Free Speech? :) ------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- <isp@freebsd.org> ----- Transcript of session follows ----- .. while talking to hub.freebsd.org.: >>> MAIL From:<wujie@mailhost.net> SIZE=3189 <<< 550 Access denied 554 <isp@freebsd.org>... Service unavailable Hi folks, sorry for my late response since I was a little bit busy these several days. This letter is intended to several senders in this mailing list. Seems an argument on wrap/non-wrap mailers has really been raised. :) To grog@lemis.com: > I suppose I should first apologize for sending the first two messages > to the mailing list. I hadn't intended to. The first was an > accident, in the second I hadn't noticed that Wu Jie had deliberately > copied the list on his reply. Hey, Greg, how could you say that? I always cc: messages pertaining to this mailing list to the list itself. Most of us do this way. And, if you have deliberately sent some mail (eg the mail to Mr. Rick Morel) to the list, you needn't append explanations that they are just accidents. To nate@mt.sri.com: > If you want help, format your mail so that it can be seen by people who > answer your questions. That means text-terminals with under 80 chars, > like the email you just sent. Firstly, it's not me, it's Mr. Rick Morel. Secondly, I always send my emails the same way, on difference in "just sent" or "previously sent". > Uhh, so what? If you send email in another language, that's fine with > me. But, you'll only get responses from someone who reads that > language. Most terminals can read 8-bit text nowadays (FreeBSD is > capable) if their LOCALE is setup. You haven't make things clear at all. Although my default character set is not English, the whole mail IS in English, so at this kind of situation, the only problem is the "From:" "To:" "Subject:" etc. will be replaced by localised words automatically by OutLook Express. Although most terminals will not reject 8-bit texts, but they can't display correctly without the fonts installed. So there are odd characters appearing in the normal "From:" "To:" "Subject:" lines. Uhh, OK? >> It's the world of web now, people get used to hypertext non-line-break >> style, what makes you deep immersed in the old command-line-break world? > > Because "that's the rules". If you want to send email over the internet > to non-M$ machines, then you gotta follow the rules. In the same > manner, if Unix people want email to be read by M$ users, they have to > use short sentences with small words so that they can be read, and not > too long since it may crashe their mailer if it's too long. :( If rules and RFCs are always correct forever, why there are so many obsoleted rules and RFCs? If "old command-line-break" is the rules of UNIX, where are the X11 and XFree86 from? > If you want help from people who give it away for free, then make it > easier for them to give it. So you join this mailing list only because you want to get help for free! I see. To gme@inspace.net: > A VHS tape at that ... A good example. Markets determine standards, users determine standards. if there is no much difference in technology. Regards, Wu Jie ---------------------------------------------------------------- I like FreeBSD and Netscape, I don't like Micro$oft, but I like to use OutLook Express. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
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