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Date:      Wed, 8 Apr 2026 10:26:12 -0700
From:      Enji Cooper (yaneurabeya) <yaneurabeya@gmail.com>
To:        =?utf-8?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=C3=B8rgrav?= <des@FreeBSD.org>
Cc:        Christian Weisgerber <naddy@mips.inka.de>, Alexander Leidinger <Alexander@leidinger.net>, freebsd-arch@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Stronger ssh settings
Message-ID:  <041CF094-40A4-4D2A-A87A-CE3CF6F1FBB3@gmail.com>
In-Reply-To: <86zf3htpmn.fsf@ltc.des.dev>
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> On Apr 5, 2026, at 8:04 AM, Dag-Erling Smørgrav <des@FreeBSD.org> wrote:
> 
> Christian Weisgerber <naddy@mips.inka.de> writes:
>> Government standards may require disabling some of the algorithms
>> OpenSSH prefers.  That is more likely a disimprovement.  Anyway,
>> if people would like example configurations compliant with FIPS or
>> such, I don't object.
> 
> FIPS compliance requires not only using only approved algorithms, but
> also using only approved implementations of those algorithms.  Simply
> editing your ssh(d) configuration will not achieve that.

	Yup. OpenSSH needs to be told to use FIPS using sshd_config (I need to figure out where that patch is) and the FIPS module needs to be present/configured for the running system.
	FIPS 140* is both “stronger” while also being a bit silly about how it’s accomplished (less about the standard and more about the folks that help enforce/certify for it): a lot of consulting businesses make money validating that FIPS 140* compliance is achieved by OSes for a stamp of approval that entities like the US Government require in order to get on Approved Product Lists (APL compliance). It’s one way of being “secure”, but isn’t the end-all-be-all for security in my book *shrug*. Using passwordless authentication, for instance, isn’t a requirement to get on the APL (last I checked), but it’s a good best practice.
Thanks,
-Enji

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