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Date:      Tue, 01 Sep 1998 11:18:36 -0500
From:      John Prince <johnp@lodgenet.com>
To:        David Wolfskill <dhw@whistle.com>
Cc:        johnp@lodgenet.com, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Weird sendmail/pop problem 
Message-ID:  <199809011618.LAA20272@milo.lodgenet.com>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 01 Sep 1998 09:12:19 PDT." <199809011612.JAA26728@pau-amma.whistle.com> 

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I Agree...
--john

David Wolfskill writes:
> >Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 20:02:31 -0500
> >From: John Prince <johnp@lodgenet.com>
> 
> >Not knowing the full situation, only the problem as described, it
> >appears to me the mail is not created during an alias expansion for
> >the original sender.
> 
> >If there is a better way I am "humbly" all ears..
> 
> >How would you suggest it be corrected? 
> 
> First, it's not clear that "mail not created during alias expansion" is,
> in and of itself, a problem.
> 
> Second, if that *is* perceived to be a problem in a particular set of
> circumstances, sendmail provides a way to override the default
> behavior:  ensure that the agent that invokes sendmail does so with the
> "-m" command-line flag.  [I'll grant you that this doesn't seem to be
> documented in the sendmail man page.  It's in the source, which is
> available, and it's alluded to in the man page for "mail".  That might
> be fixed in sendmail 8.9.1; I'm currently running 8.8.8 internally.  If
> it's not fixed in 8.9.1, perhaps someone might want to suggest a patch
> for the man page to the folks at sendmail.org.]
> 
> Further, it would appear that the basic issue is that in this case,
> someone is injecting mail into a system in such a way that sendmail is
> being told (by the "-f" flag, if I recall correctly) what the sender's
> identity is.  Since the alias expansion includes an address that matches
> this address (the one specified by "-f"), sendmail is, as usual,
> suppressing the generation of a likely superfluous copy, as the sender
> is presumed to be able to make copies, or specifically request (via Cc:
> or Bcc:, for example) a copy.
> 
> And in the more general case, it's possible to use a tool such as
> majordomo, in which case the usual arrangement is that the "sender" name
> is set to the name of the list (administrator), so all messages to the
> list would get sent to all members of the list -- even the originator.
> 
> david
> -- 
> David Wolfskill		UNIX System Administrator
> dhw@whistle.com		voice: (650) 577-7158	pager: (650) 371-4621
> 




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