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Date:      Mon, 6 Oct 2025 05:39:40 +0000
From:      Colin Percival <cperciva@tarsnap.com>
To:        Mark Millard <marklmi@yahoo.com>, Lexi Winter <ivy@freebsd.org>,  FreeBSD Current <freebsd-current@freebsd.org>,  FreeBSD-STABLE Mailing List <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: disallowing 'make installworld' with pkgbase [side note about release notes draft]
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On 10/5/25 22:30, Mark Millard wrote:
> Lexi Winter <ivy_at_freebsd.org> wrote on
> Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2025 02:03:17 UTC :
> 
>> in 15.0 we will ship pkgbase as an alternative to the dist sets for base
>> system installation. pkgbase is entirely optional and for at least 15.0,
>> we will continue to support dist set installation with freebsd-update.
>>
>> . . .
> 
> This seems to also be an announcement of a change to what the 15.0
> draft release notes ( https://www.freebsd.org/releases/15.0R/relnotes/ )
> have said:
> 
> QUOTE
> FreeBSD Update is probably not going to exist in 15.0-RELEASE! The text
> below is boilerplate from previous releases and should be replaced with
> instructions for using pkgbase once those are finalized.
> END QUOTE
> 
> It would be good for the draft to have its "probably" status for this
> switched at some point.

Yeah, I'll definitely fix that before the release.  Plans have changed and
in particular we've determined that -- since we can ship DVD images with
identical binaries via dist sets and packages -- supporting "legacy" FreeBSD
Update in 15.x should be reasonably straightforward.

(This was hinted at in my earlier announcement about the timeline for
deprecation of dist sets.)

-- 
Colin Percival
FreeBSD Release Engineering Lead & EC2 platform maintainer
Founder, Tarsnap | www.tarsnap.com | Online backups for the truly paranoid




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