Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2020 11:52:16 +0100 From: =?utf-8?Q?Klaus_K=C3=BCchemann?= <maciphone2@googlemail.com> To: Stefan Parvu <sparvu@kronometrix.org>, freebsd-arm@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Showstoppers for RPI3 Message-ID: <302F1554-C645-4323-AEAB-44C3DFE2B628@googlemail.com> In-Reply-To: <A13BFE46-0D14-465D-9139-CB208616AF80@kronometrix.org> References: <20200225175446.GA77976@www.zefox.net> <11951E01-EC13-4FBB-938A-AEB5700C4281@yahoo.com> <CACNAnaEiv5NZZz%2BxfETkhSZ-zbjZ3Ya6z7pyteheP4zj3EK1Gg@mail.gmail.com> <20200226052045.GA79939@www.zefox.net> <E866B6BE-7948-4412-82EF-999A2F8C0DF9@googlemail.com> <04e8e290e5d7bb810f76ece4ff33d6e1006e63cd.camel@freebsd.org> <280455B5-E201-494F-A4EB-2426A12B7E2C@googlemail.com> <20200226235908.GD22189@lonesome.com> <F4EB9ED4-017D-4CDC-A927-035E1C595CD4@googlemail.com> <A13BFE46-0D14-465D-9139-CB208616AF80@kronometrix.org>
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> Am 27.02.2020 um 10:56 schrieb Stefan Parvu <sparvu@kronometrix.org>: >=20 > I think FreeBSD should support and have Tier 1 for ARM64 supporting: >=20 > * a consumer level SBC like RBPI enough well supported (SMP, = PowerMgmt, Wifi, BLE)=20 > this would be good for FreeBSD adoption, IoT projects, university, = students. The board=20 > is not an industrial board but for 30EUR, it does work for = different use cases very well.=20 >=20 > * industrial SBC (like ? Rock64 ?, else ?) this would be useful for = SME and other companies=20 > to build things around FreeBSD for more serious projects. >=20 > ARM is moving fast and should we. FreeBSD must list ARM (aarch64) as = Tier 1 supported platform. >=20 > Talking about NetBSD: can anyone here give a list of what features = NetBSD supports and=20 > we dont ? (RBPI 3B/4) I will ask also on their list a bit later. >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > Stefan Parvu > sparvu@kronometrix.org >=20 >=20 Hi Stefan, we=E2=80=99ll try to give more detail information on all this stuff in = the Wiki the next days, But for now in short: FreeBSD supports Rockchip-boards , the only problem is that =E2=80=9Enobod= y=E2=80=9C knows it ;-) I asked manu@ for a list of gadgets I do not own myself.. In fact there=E2=80=99s code from NetBSD in FreeBSD, from FreeBSD in = NetBSD , from OpenBSD in FreeBSD and so on.. we just have to took a closer look into what=E2=80=99s next to work = on=E2=80=A6 For Tier1: Tier1 means that nearly EVERYTHING has to be continuously = supported, but not every feature is yet implemented in aarch64(e.g. dtrace = userland support), So Tier1 has nothing to do with e.g. the RPI or other boards, it has to = do with supporting features , But from that point of view FreeBSD is not so far away from = Tier1/aarch64.. e.g there=E2=80=99s openjdk11/12 . A lot of features are available=E2=80=A6= So in this discussion the only problem is the RPI(because it=E2=80=99s = publicly better advertised than other gadgets), Good advertising but bad (firmware-)-vendor support..=20 But why not to support the RPI(4) as far as possible, if other BSDs can = do that=E2=80=A6 Regards Klaus=20
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