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Date:      Thu, 27 May 1999 04:17:20 +0200
From:      Eivind Eklund <eivind@FreeBSD.ORG>
To:        "Jonathan M. Bresler" <jmb@hub.freebsd.org>
Cc:        jkh@zippy.cdrom.com, current@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: FTP passive mode - a new default?
Message-ID:  <19990527041720.I1444@bitbox.follo.net>
In-Reply-To: <19990526145403.3697B1550B@hub.freebsd.org>; from Jonathan M. Bresler on Wed, May 26, 1999 at 07:54:03AM -0700
References:  <16256.927715821@zippy.cdrom.com> <19990526145403.3697B1550B@hub.freebsd.org>

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On Wed, May 26, 1999 at 07:54:03AM -0700, Jonathan M. Bresler wrote:
> > 
> > Unless I hear unanimous fierce outcry against it, I'm strongly
> > considering making FTP_PASSIVE_MODE obsolete by virtue of being the
> > default for all tools/libraries which currently examine it.
> > FTP_ACTIVE_MODE will be the new flag for toggling the previous
> > behavior.
> > 
> > Given the state of the Internet today, I think this is purely a
> > sensible change in defaults.  Comments?
> > 
> 	do any apps check for FTP_ACTIVE_MODE?
> 	are we going to apply patches to each app to check for this
> 	and maintains those patches over the course of time?
> 
> 	seems to be a change without commensurate benefit.....it will
> 	confuse some, suprise others and doesnt seem to offer
> 	substantial benefit.

It has the (large!) benefit of NATed[1] and firewalled users getting a
working setup at once.  I'm in favour.

[1] Those using natd/ppp -alias will get this already, due to a
protocol translator in libalias.  Alas, this does not combine with
firewalls on the NAT machine unless somebody choose to activate the
code I added to libalias to punch 'holes' in ipfw.

Eivind.


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