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Date:      Mon, 9 Dec 2013 18:52:36 +0000
From:      "Teske, Devin" <Devin.Teske@fisglobal.com>
To:        George Mitchell <george+freebsd@m5p.com>
Cc:        Devin Teske <dteske@freebsd.org>, "freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Stable" <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>, "Teske, Devin" <Devin.Teske@fisglobal.com>
Subject:   Re: BIND segway -> python -> first-class ports -> parsing
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On Dec 9, 2013, at 10:17 AM, Teske, Devin wrote:

>=20
> On Dec 9, 2013, at 9:27 AM, Teske, Devin wrote:
>=20
>>=20
>> On Dec 9, 2013, at 3:21 AM, George Mitchell wrote:
>>=20
>>> On 12/09/13 00:39, Teske, Devin wrote:
>>>> [...]
>>>> But keep in mind...
>>>>=20
>>>> The real power is not in shell, the real power is in POSIX. I have the=
 supreme
>>>> pleasure of having developed C programs that can compile on:
>>>>=20
>>>> + Windows using MinGW
>>>> + Mac OS X using ... gcc
>>>> + Mac OS Classic using SIOUX
>>>> NB: Simple Input/Output User eXchange
>>>> + Linux, Unix, BSD, AIX, OSF1, Amiga, etc.
>>>>=20
>>>> All with a single source package. It's the power of POSIX.
>>>>=20
>>>> So whenever I've made a choice to target "/bin/sh" as a platform, it's
>>>> always *only* ever been based on the decision of "reach".
>>>>=20
>>>> Shell quite often doesn't cut it. Prior to shell, I spent my time tryi=
ng
>>>> building libraries used to abstract higher functionality for cross-pla=
tform
>>>> compatibility. And, until now, that's primarily been in C -- shell is =
only a
>>>> recent excursion because I feel I've *finally* nailed the right recipe=
s for
>>>> that.
>>>>=20
>>>> I'm actually a bit worried that Python and Lua don't have the reach th=
at C does,
>>>> let alone shell.
>>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> +1 to a well-reasoned and insightful post.
>>>=20
>>> What are your thoughts on the other part of Mr. Perlstein's concern: the
>>> lack of what I would like to call a Grand Unified Schema?  Perhaps such
>>> a thing belongs in POSIX as well, as it would be intriguing to be able
>>> to write tools (in whatever language) that could rely on uniformly
>>> parseable data (i.e. sizes always known to be in eight-bit bytes, text
>>> in UTF-8 [let's say], time in seconds, numbers in decimal without
>>> commas, key-value pairs in a specified format, consistent meaning for
>>> key names).                                                 -- George
>>=20
>> Hi George,
>>=20
>> I'm glad you asked.
>=20
> My experience tells me that 90% of the Grand Unified Schema is adapting
> a single interface so that the following two issues are dealt with:
>=20
> [snip]
>=20
> 	1. Centralized parsing library
>=20
> 	2. Centralized mangling library
>=20

#1 I've conceptualized into code as "libfigpar".

For #2, I'm thinking something similar, but libfigman (for "Con[fig]uration=
 [Man]gler")

;D
--=20
Devin

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