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Date:      Wed, 18 Mar 1998 21:50:49 -0600
From:      Richard Wackerbarth <rkw@dataplex.net>
To:        Matthew Thyer <Matthew.Thyer@dsto.defence.gov.au>
Cc:        joelh@gnu.org, c5666305@comp.polyu.edu.hk, current@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Using CVSUP and CTM together (Was Re: Disk munging problem with current solved)
Message-ID:  <l03130308b13643d4b470@[208.2.87.4]>
In-Reply-To: <35108C62.DDFB1544@dsto.defence.gov.au>
References:  <199803171142.TAA07037@cssolar85.COMP.HKP.HK> <350E643D.A47CB903@camtech.net.au> <199803182240.QAA07391@detlev.UUCP> <35106C23.64774CD9@dsto.defence.gov.au> <199803190244.UAA08131@detlev.UUCP>

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At 9:09 PM -0600 3/18/98, Matthew Thyer wrote:
>I dont know about this... hopefully someone else can comment on it.
>
>It would be good to be able to cvsup for a latest VM fix and then
>to be able to re-synchronize with CTM later.

The ability to do this is somewhat limited by the problems
associated in jumping from one CVSup server to another.

You can use the CVSup server on ctm.freebsd.org in conjunction
with CTM because it's source is the <cvs-cur> CTM distribution.

However, that is not really a help if your intention is to try to
beat the latency of CTM. CTM is delayed because (1) it is run only
a few times each day, and (2) it does not have access to the master
source. The CTM distributions themselves are generated from a copy
of a copy of the master tree as it has no better access than to
CVSup from one of the CVSup sites just the same as you would do.
In fact, the deltas are often delayed because the CVSup update
is rejected because those servers are too busy.

>Also it would seem that CTM is not very useful for developers as
>they are required to update their tree before committing changes
>(in case what they were to change has been changed by others).

That would depend on the amount of latency that the developer can accept.
If he knows that he is the only one working on a particular part of
the tree, he is fairly safe in ingoring the pre-undate sync.
CVS will "complain" if he gets caught in a race. If this happens, the
update is rejected. The user must resync the affected file and try
again. As long as such failures are very infrequent, it may not be
a problem.

Richard Wackerbarth



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