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Date:      Sun, 12 Oct 2025 20:07:33 +0900
From:      Tomoaki AOKI <junchoon@dec.sakura.ne.jp>
To:        A FreeBSD User <freebsd@walstatt-de.de>
Cc:        David Wolfskill <david@catwhisker.org>, FreeBSD CURRENT <freebsd-current@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: ipfw: ipfw: Adding record failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device
Message-ID:  <20251012200733.ea68f87a1d22abb857249538@dec.sakura.ne.jp>
In-Reply-To: <20251012102907.06e49c52@thor.sb211.local>
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On Sun, 12 Oct 2025 10:28:40 +0200
A FreeBSD User <freebsd@walstatt-de.de> wrote:

> Am Tage des Herren Sat, 11 Oct 2025 13:49:23 -0700
> David Wolfskill <david@catwhisker.org> schrieb:
> 
> > On Sat, Oct 11, 2025 at 03:51:15PM +0200, A FreeBSD User wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > > 
> > > running a small home brewn firewall appliance  based upon FreeBSD 14-STABLE and IPFW, I
> > > switched the base to 15-STABLE (FreeBSD 15.0-STABLE #5 n280665-6eb4708a84d7: Sat Oct 11
> > > 09:08:00 CEST 2025 amd64).
> > > 
> > > Now I face a serious issue with formerly flawless running skripts filling ipfw tables and
> > > the readynes of the system after a reboot.
> > > ...  
> > 
> > I believe that I have a simple reproduction of (the core of) the problem:
> > 
> > g1-48(15.0-S)[82] pwd
> > /tmp
> > g1-48(15.0-S)[83] uname -aUK
> > FreeBSD g1-48.catwhisker.org 15.0-STABLE FreeBSD 15.0-STABLE #454
> > stable/15-n280665-6eb4708a84d7: Sat Oct 11 14:58:22 UTC 2025
> > root@g1-48.catwhisker.org:/common/S3/obj/usr/src/amd64.amd64/sys/CANARY amd64 1500500
> > 1500500 g1-48(15.0-S)[84] ipfw table 1 flush g1-48(15.0-S)[85] ipfw table 1 list
> > g1-48(15.0-S)[86] cat t1 table 1 add 1.0.1.0/24
> > table 1 add 1.0.2.0/23
> > table 1 add 1.0.8.0/21
> > table 1 add 1.0.32.0/19
> > table 1 add 1.1.0.0/24
> > table 1 add 1.1.2.0/23
> > table 1 add 1.1.4.0/22
> > table 1 add 1.1.9.0/24
> > table 1 add 1.1.10.0/23
> > table 1 add 1.1.12.0/22
> > g1-48(15.0-S)[87] cat t1 | /sbin/ipfw /dev/stdin
> > added: 1.0.1.0/24 0
> > Line 1: Adding record failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device
> > g1-48(15.0-S)[88] ipfw table 1 list
> > 1.0.1.0/24 0
> > g1-48(15.0-S)[89] ipfw table 1 flush
> > g1-48(15.0-S)[90] ipfw table 1 list
> > g1-48(15.0-S)[91] /sbin/ipfw /tmp/t1
> > added: 1.0.1.0/24 0
> > added: 1.0.2.0/23 0
> > added: 1.0.8.0/21 0
> > added: 1.0.32.0/19 0
> > added: 1.1.0.0/24 0
> > added: 1.1.2.0/23 0
> > added: 1.1.4.0/22 0
> > added: 1.1.9.0/24 0
> > added: 1.1.10.0/23 0
> > added: 1.1.12.0/22 0
> > g1-48(15.0-S)[92] ipfw table 1 list
> > 1.0.1.0/24 0
> > 1.0.2.0/23 0
> > 1.0.8.0/21 0
> > 1.0.32.0/19 0
> > 1.1.0.0/24 0
> > 1.1.2.0/23 0
> > 1.1.4.0/22 0
> > 1.1.9.0/24 0
> > 1.1.10.0/23 0
> > 1.1.12.0/22 0
> > g1-48(15.0-S)[93] 
> > 
> > So it seems that /sbin/ipfw no longer copes with reading from
> > /dev/stdin, but is OK reading from a regular file.  (I had observed the
> > same behavior in main-n281059-2d9fd2c573c3, now that I know to look for
> > it.)
> > 
> > (I note that I had been using a construct involving piping the
> > "table add" commands to /sbin/ipfw since 2008, shortly after getting the
> > nudge from Julian to populate a table from a file, rather than invoking
> > /sbin/ipfw for each table entry.)
> > 
> > Peace,
> > david
> 
> Hello,
> thanks for the investigation and confirmation.
> 
> The advantage of reading tables via the approach I used is not to have pinpoint the table's
> name in the file and having made this decision in the script filling the table by reading a
> file.
> If the observed behaviour is due to a new well defined behaviour - well, then it be so and I
> have to search for another approach. But my guts tell me there might be something wrong and
> considered a bug ...
> 
> Kind regards 
> Oliver 
> 
> -- 
> 
> A FreeBSD user

The simplest approach would be to use temporary file, rather than pipe.


-- 
Tomoaki AOKI    <junchoon@dec.sakura.ne.jp>



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