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Date:      Fri, 01 Jul 2005 12:14:04 -0600
From:      Scott Long <scottl@samsco.org>
To:        Brooks Davis <brooks@one-eyed-alien.net>
Cc:        Guy Dawson <guy@crossflight.co.uk>, freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org, freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: AMD64 X2
Message-ID:  <42C587EC.7030203@samsco.org>
In-Reply-To: <20050701172139.GA25916@odin.ac.hmc.edu>
References:  <200506290818.j5T8IELL002348@peedub.jennejohn.org>	<42C3F72E.9070902@speakeasy.net>	<8f55402905063018441217c95a@mail.gmail.com>	<20050701015457.GC4460@dragon.NUXI.org>	<42C5220B.1000203@crossflight.co.uk>	<1d6d20bc050701065367a01e8b@mail.gmail.com> <20050701172139.GA25916@odin.ac.hmc.edu>

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Brooks Davis wrote:

> On Fri, Jul 01, 2005 at 09:53:27PM +0800, Jia-Shiun Li wrote:
> 
>>On 7/1/05, Guy Dawson <guy@crossflight.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>>David O'Brien wrote:
>>>
>>>>It really should be that simple.  All the external interfaces and pins
>>>>are the same for Athlon64-939 and Athlon64 X2.  They have the same
>>>>thermal specifications, etc...
>>>
>>>It's the only way AMD could reasonably do it. To require a different
>>>motherboard for X1 (?) and X2 chips would have the mobo makers rioting!
>>
>>That's what Intel did. Requiring a new i945/i955-based board for their
>>rushed dual-core CPUs. Only use the same socket but varied pin
>>definition. If you put the new CPU on an i915 board, it will shutdown
>>automatically to 'protect'. In contrast Athlon64 claimed to be
>>designed with dual-core capability in mind from the beginning.
> 
> 
> It is worth noting that some motherboard manufactures did produce boards
> that don't work with dual core opterons.  In particular the Tyan K8SR
> prior to rev-D doesn't work because they proview a couple too few watts
> to the CPU sockets.
> 
> -- Brooks
> 

The Asus A8V-E series also does not work.  Asus claims that it's a 
limitation of the Via K8T890 chipset, which is highly unfortunate
since it's otherwise a good motherboard.  Not sure whether to be
upset at Asus or Via here, but either way I guess both suck =-)

Scott



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