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Date:      Mon, 30 Jan 2017 22:11:39 -0800
From:      jungle boogie <jungleboogie0@gmail.com>
To:        Heasley <heas@shrubbery.net>
Cc:        =?UTF-8?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=c3=b8rgrav?= <des@des.no>, freebsd-security@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: fbsd11 & sshv1
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On 01/30/2017 09:36 PM, Heasley wrote:

>>> whats wrong with providing a 7.4+v1 port for everyone to use?
>>
>> What will happen when 7.4 gets a vulnerability, then? I don't think
>> you or I will be patching it (or anyone else) and therefore, the
>> port/pkg will be knowingly vulnerable.
>>
>> Why do we want that?
>
> So you ate advocating telnet? Such a client is likely better still than telnet, which is the only alternative.
>

No, I've explained what I've advocated: compile 7.4 yourself and use if 
for your own needs. Having FreeBSD keep deprecated software around 
doesn't seem practical to me, and it seems this is also what FreeBSD 
security also believes. Sorry that you're working with legacy hardware.

> Without a pkg, folks are forced to maintain it themselves. Which is more likely to receive less attention between now and EoS for v1?
>
> Dont make choices for or impose your rhetoric upon others, provide them the tools to make their choices.
>

Fact: I'm not imposing anything as I have no say in FreeBSD's security 
at all.

FWIW, in May 2016 it the openssh team announced their intentions to 
disable ssh v1:
http://lists.mindrot.org/pipermail/openssh-unix-dev/2016-May/035069.html

It also looks like they pushed the deprecation from June to August as well.

Looks like ssh v1 was disabled at compile time in March 2015:
http://lists.mindrot.org/pipermail/openssh-unix-dev/2015-March/033701.html

So unsurprisingly, it looks like they've communicated the desire to 
remove sshv1 for awhile.





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