Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2001 20:10:07 -1000 (HST) From: Vincent Poy <vince@oahu.WURLDLINK.NET> To: David Kelly <dkelly@hiwaay.net> Cc: Brad Knowles <blk@skynet.be>, FreeBSD Chat Mailing List <freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG> Subject: Re: NetBSD vs. FreeBSD? Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.31.0101062009100.57171-100000@oahu.WURLDLINK.NET> In-Reply-To: <200101070600.f0760us11953@grumpy.dyndns.org>
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On Sun, 7 Jan 2001, David Kelly wrote: > Vincent Poy writes: > > On Sat, 6 Jan 2001, David Kelly wrote: > > > > > Brad Knowles writes: > > > > I found a site that has 7200 logic board upgrades available (see > > > > <http://www.micromac.com/products/lb_pm7500_upgrade.html>), and for > > > > about $600 (after the $200 rebate they send you when you send in your > > > > 7200 logic board), you can get a machine that should be minimally > > > > usable with NetBSD. > > > > > > Doesn't sound like a very good bargain when new Apple PowerMac G4's are > > > $1295 for a G4 400 MHz, 64MB, 20G, 56k modem, 10/100/1000 ethernet, 64 > > > bit PCI slots, and DVD. Most Mac mailorder houses throw in extra memory > > > for free as Apple regulates the advertised sale price but not the free > > > add-ins. Ordered mine from http://www.outpost.com/ at 10PM one night, > > > it arrived 9:30AM with 128MB extra and free shipping. > > > > > > While FreeBSD isn't working on PowerPC port of BSD, Apple is. MacOS X. > > > And the open source BSD core of MacOS X is Darwin, same price as > > > FreeBSD. > > > > > > Am still thinking about how I'm going to slice up my 20G HD for MacOS > > > 9, X, and Darwin. Meanwhile "Toy Story" 1 and 2 DVD's are impressive on > > > a G4 with 21" monitor at 1280x1024. > > > > Interesting, which machine did you get exactly? It would be great > > if MacOS X can run binaries that can run under the x86 FreeBSD platform... > > Top right corner of this where it says, "Power Mac G4 From $1299". > That's what I got. The bottom of the line (400MHz vs 500MHz) single CPU > model. http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore > > But as I said above, I bought from Outpost.com. Doesn't look like their > web server will generate a URL I can bookmark or email. But its fairly > easy to navigate. They are currently showing backorder of 1 to 2 weeks. > > At the same time I backordered a G3 PowerBook 500MHz, 256MB, $2200. > Decided that was at least comparable to anything Intel/AMD. But had the > double whammy of the Apple GUI, and the forthcoming power of Unix/BSD. > Couldn't resist any longer. > > The PowerBook doesn't have PCMCIA. But like the G4 tower it has > Firewire and an Airport slot. Only reason I would have wanted PCMCIA > was for the compact flash card used in my Kodak DC-290. Then again its > not really an issue because the USB interface has been satisfactory. > > Doubt MacOS X will ever run x86 FreeBSD binaries. VirtualPC is said to > be able to run FreeBSD now on any PowerMac under recent MacOS's. > Haven't tried. Was told patches were needed and downloadable from the > support site for my VirtualPC 3.0. Got the 4.0 update with the G4. Interesting... I was planning to get a Cube just to run a FreeBSD machine but I never thought about the VIrtualPC option. Cheers, Vince - vince@WURLDLINK.NET - Vice President ________ __ ____ Unix Networking Operations - FreeBSD-Real Unix for Free / / / / | / |[__ ] WurldLink Corporation / / / / | / | __] ] San Francisco - Honolulu - Hong Kong / / / / / |/ / | __] ] HongKong Stars/Gravis UltraSound Mailing Lists Admin /_/_/_/_/|___/|_|[____] Almighty1@IRC - oahu.DAL.NET Hawaii's DALnet IRC Network Server Admin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message
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