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Date:      Sat, 7 Apr 2007 20:03:19 +0200
From:      Bernd Walter <ticso@cicely12.cicely.de>
To:        "Florian C. Smeets" <flo@kasimir.com>
Cc:        freebsd-fs@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org, Pawel Jakub Dawidek <pjd@FreeBSD.org>, ticso@cicely.de
Subject:   Re: ZFS committed to the FreeBSD base.
Message-ID:  <20070407180319.GH8831@cicely12.cicely.de>
In-Reply-To: <20070407165759.GG8831@cicely12.cicely.de>
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On Sat, Apr 07, 2007 at 06:58:00PM +0200, Bernd Walter wrote:
> On Sat, Apr 07, 2007 at 03:59:02PM +0200, Florian C. Smeets wrote:
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> > Pawel Jakub Dawidek wrote:
> > > On Sat, Apr 07, 2007 at 04:56:45AM +0200, Bernd Walter wrote:
> > >> My sandbox just has 128MB RAM so kmem was set to ~40M.
> > >> After raising kmem to 80M it survived copying the file, but paniced
> > >> again while tar -xvzf the file into the same pool.
> > >> vfs.zfs.vdev.cache.size is unchanged at 10M.
> > > 
> > > 128MB RAM of suggested minimum in ZFS requirements, but it may be not
> > > enough... Minimum of ARC is set to 1/8 of all memory or 64MB (whichever
> > > is more). Could you locate these lines in
> > > sys/contrib/opensolaris/uts/common/fs/zfs/arc.c file:
> > > 
> > > 	/* set min cache to 1/32 of all memory, or 64MB, whichever is more */
> > > 	arc_c_min = MAX(arc_c / 4, 64<<20);
> > > 
> > > Change 64 to eg. 32, recompile and retest?
> > > 
> > 
> > Hi Pawel,
> > 
> > i had the same problems like Bernd while trying to copy the src tree to
> > a ZFS volume. I have 384MB RAM but i got the same "kmem_map: too small"
> > panic. I compiled my kernel like you proposed and now i am able to copy
> > anything to the volume without panic :-)
> 
> I had increased RAM to 384 and still had a panic with default kmem
> (IIRC around 100M) and even increasing kmem to 160M did help a long
> time, but still produced the panic after a while.
> I don't think 64M applies here as the real limit.

Now with 240M kmem it looks good, but I'm still unshure:
kstat.zfs.misc.arcstats.c_min: 67108864
kstat.zfs.misc.arcstats.c_max: 188743680
kstat.zfs.misc.arcstats.size: 87653376
c_max seemed to be increasing with kmem, but I did compare it with a
remebered value.
Should be good with:
vm.kmem_size: 251658240
But top shows wired memory which is roughly twice the size of
arcstats.size, so I'm still worried about kmem exhaustion if ARC runs
up to c_max.
Since the c_min/c_max values also influence the available RAM for other
purposes as well, can we have it at least a loader.conf tuneable?

Otherwise - the reboot after the panics where impressive.
No long fsck times or noticed data corruption - even with NFS clients.
All in all it is a great job.

-- 
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