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Date:      Tue, 23 Jul 2013 16:07:09 +0000
From:      "Teske, Devin" <Devin.Teske@fisglobal.com>
To:        FreeBSD Questions <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>
Cc:        Pietro Paolini <pulsarpietro@aol.com>, Devin Teske <dteske@freebsd.org>, =?iso-8859-1?Q?Fernando_Apestegu=EDa?= <fernando.apesteguia@gmail.com>
Subject:   Re: Newbye question VIM problem
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On Jul 23, 2013, at 8:56 AM, Pietro Paolini wrote:

>=20
> On Jul 23, 2013, at 5:16 PM, Fernando Apestegu=EDa <fernando.apesteguia@g=
mail.com> wrote:
>=20
>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v1/url?u=3Dftp://ftp-archive.freebsd.o=
rg/pub/FreeBSD-Archive/ports/i386/packages-9.0-release/Latest/&k=3D%2FbkpAU=
dJWZuiTILCq%2FFnQg%3D%3D%0A&r=3DMrjs6vR4%2Faj2Ns9%2FssHJjg%3D%3D%0A&m=3DEqN=
k3zW%2BFthkGaRpyM7lCZDFPyMcUaqjJFP252xoemg%3D%0A&s=3Dbdff9db189b5402b3645c5=
55057e75498aa8736639cf977d5009f66eb6335304
>=20
> Yep, thanks a lot !
>=20

As a side discussion... (opening a can of squiggly worms here)

It's often bothered me that the tools don't know about the archive (which g=
oes back a long ways and has a very consistent and structured layout).

So in authoring the latest tool (bsdconfig(8)), I made sure that the archiv=
e is checked (grep archive media/ftp.subr from SVN r247280).

Don't know if that was the right move, but here @ Vicor, we've been [ab]usi=
ng the archive for .. over a decade? (looks at julian to chime in if he use=
d the archive before I got here).

But I for one would like to see the archive to maintain its steady growth a=
nd be available.

Of course, the change to look in the archive seemed (to me at least) to be =
a pretty innocuous one (if the archive goes away, they're back to where the=
y started... no working URLs).

Just wondering why for so long the archive has never been checked by tools =
when (imho) that only serves to break old releases sooner with respect to r=
emote-fetch of a binary release file (e.g., pkg or dist, etc.).
--=20
Devin

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