Date: Wed, 23 May 2018 12:30:26 -0700 From: Cy Schubert <Cy.Schubert@cschubert.com> To: Stefan Esser <se@freebsd.org>, "rgrimes@freebsd.org" <rgrimes@freebsd.org>, Mark Linimon <linimon@lonesome.com> Cc: Gleb Smirnoff <glebius@freebsd.org>, Sean Bruno <sbruno@freebsd.org>, "svn-src-head@freebsd.org" <svn-src-head@freebsd.org>, "svn-src-all@freebsd.org" <svn-src-all@freebsd.org>, "src-committers@freebsd.org" <src-committers@freebsd.org> Subject: RE: svn commit: r333388 - in head: . share/man/man4 sys/confsys/dev/nxge sys/modules sys/modules/nxge tools/kerneldoc/subsys tools/toolstools/tools/nxge usr.sbin/bsdconfig/share Message-ID: <20180523193027.825583BC@spqr.komquats.com>
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Except for old computers and old software that segfaults on 64-bit, how man= y people still use i386? Full disclosure: I'd like to see i386 deorbited before I retire. --- Sent using a tiny phone keyboard. Apologies for any typos and autocorrect. Also, this old phone only supports top post. Apologies. Cy Schubert <Cy.Schubert@cschubert.com> or <cy@freebsd.org> The need of the many outweighs the greed of the few. --- -----Original Message----- From: Stefan Esser Sent: 23/05/2018 11:44 To: rgrimes@freebsd.org; Mark Linimon Cc: Gleb Smirnoff; Sean Bruno; svn-src-head@freebsd.org; svn-src-all@freebs= d.org; src-committers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: svn commit: r333388 - in head: . share/man/man4 sys/confsys/de= v/nxge sys/modules sys/modules/nxge tools/kerneldoc/subsys tools/toolstools= /tools/nxge usr.sbin/bsdconfig/share Am 23.05.18 um 20:14 schrieb Rodney W. Grimes: >> On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 10:41:17AM -0700, Gleb Smirnoff wrote: >>> If end of sales and support is enough to remove 10g driver from the ker= nel, >>> can we please delete all 10Mbit, 100Mbit 10+ year old drivers from the = kernel? >> >> Depends on how many existing users we want to screw over. Not everyone >> replaces all their hardware every 2 years, folks. >=20 > And some of us buy 2 year old hardware because it is cheap, > and serves our needs just fine. Even 8 year old servers > make usable machines today. >=20 >> The difference is that the Exar chips failed in the marketplace; very >> few seem to have made it out into the wild. >> >> Given, 10Mbit-only things are way past their sell-by date. >=20 > Do we even have any 10Mbit only drivers? I think that all the > 10mbit drivers also support 100mbit devices, but maybe there > are some odd cases I cant remeber. AFAIK and FWIW: ed(4), le(4) on amd64 and on i386 (ISA and PCI) ex(4), ep(4) on i386 (ISA and PCcard) Regards, STefan
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