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Date:      Fri, 31 Oct 1997 11:13:17 +0000 (GMT)
From:      "Jonathan A. Zdziarski" <jonz@netrail.net>
To:        "Bryn Wm. Moslow" <bryn@nwlink.com>
Cc:        freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Password file builds
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.3.95q.971031111301.26180A-100000@netrail.net>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.3.96.971030131812.20446B-100000@wingnut.spacemonster.org>

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Why don't you build the file on another machine and rdist the password
databases back to the mail server?


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Jonathan A. Zdziarski                                NetRail Incorporated
Systems Engineering Manager                   230 Peachtree St. Suite 500
jonz@netrail.net                                        Atlanta, GA 30303
http://www.netrail.net                                    (888) - NETRAIL
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On Thu, 30 Oct 1997, Bryn Wm. Moslow wrote:

:Hello,
:
:I'm running 2.2.2-RELEASE on a mail server that has several thousand
:users. The new box is pretty beefy: PPro 200, 256MB RAM, Adaptec 2940UW.
:The server it replaced was running BSD/OS 2.1 on a P133 w/ 80MB RAM Fast
:SCSI-2 (Buslogic). The mail system runs beautifully - very fast, very
:nice. I only have one rather annoying problem: Password file rebuilds just
:absolutely HAMMER the system. Whenever pwd_mkdb is running the whole box
:literally comes to a standstill (things still work - just VERY slowly.)
:This happens every 15 minutes if there has been a change to the
:master.passwd file I'm building from. The spwd.db and pwd.db are nearly
:5MB and I'm using DES as I have several other boxes (Non-FreeBSD) that I
:have to stay compatible with for passwords. Someday they'll all be FreeBSD
:and no problem =).
:
:I've been running the password build under a nice value of '15' but if I'm
:watching top almost everything else on the box is in one of four STATEs: 
:ufslk, getblk, wait, sbwait. The waits I get but I can't find anything on
:ufslk or getblk in the man pages or handbook. Maybe I'm on the wrong track
:but I'm thinking I've got disk I/O blockage. The disk is running furiously
:while pwd_mkdb is running but the system load actually DROPS while this is
:going on (presumably because everything is waiting) and then spikes way up
:for a minute as soon as it's finished and all the popper and sendmail
:processes get their time on the silicon and platters. 
:
:I've been toying with the idea of running the filesystem(s) async but was
:hoping for something a little more solid. If I had another machine to
:build into an NIS server I might be inclined to do my builds elsewhere. 
:Additionally, NIS would be a hard sell to the company president. He just
:don't like it. I've been avoiding it myself because of some horror stories
:and personal experiences.
:
:Right now, authentication (for popper and logins) is SLOW for the couple
:of minutes that pwd_mkdb is running. Every time my boss uses Eudora and
:has to see that blue bar I hear about it. Terminal Sessions are nearly
:unusable during the build. It irks me to say this but BSDI took almost no
:performance hit on a slower machine with slower drives with the same
:password files.  Suggestions?
:
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:   /\      /\          /|	Bryn Wm. Moslow
:  /  \    /  \        / |	Northwest Link Systems Administrator
: /    \  /    \  /\  /  |	(425) 451-1151
:/      \/      \/  \/   |_____	http://www.nwlink.com
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