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Date:      Thu, 22 Jan 2004 11:44:59 +0300
From:      =?koi8-r?B?4czFy9PFyiDkzcnU0snF18ne?= <novad@newmail.ru>
To:        freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Problem with foppy drive
Message-ID:  <98180199.20040122114459@newmail.ru>
In-Reply-To: <MIEPLLIBMLEEABPDBIEGEEEHFFAA.fbsd_user@a1poweruser.com>
References:  <852489629.20040120161615@newmail.ru> <MIEPLLIBMLEEABPDBIEGEEEHFFAA.fbsd_user@a1poweruser.com>

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Hello friend

I did everything you wrote about and it didn't help me.
dmesg did not change at all so floppy drive didn't work.
All PnP options was disable from the hole beginning and they are disable
and now.
But I fount in BIOS one option :"OnBoard FDC".
I disabled it and found that some things have changed in dmesg.boot.
There disappeared lines with some fdc0 errors (i send it in this e-mail)

Also I send you my kernel configuration maybe i should write or delete some
lines there.



---------dmesg-------------------------

Copyright (c) 1992-2003 The FreeBSD Project.
Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994
        The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
FreeBSD 5.1-RELEASE #0: Wed Jan 21 16:35:32 MSK 2004
    root@:/usr/src/sys/i386/compile/NovAD3c
Preloaded elf kernel "/boot/kernel/kernel" at 0xc050b000.
Timecounter "i8254"  frequency 1193182 Hz
Timecounter "TSC"  frequency 1817950912 Hz
CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 1.80GHz (1817.95-MHz 686-class CPU)
  Origin = "GenuineIntel"  Id = 0xf24  Stepping = 4
  Features=0x3febf9ff<FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CLFLUSH,DTS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM>
real memory  = 536805376 (511 MB)
avail memory = 515895296 (491 MB)
Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled
acpi0: <AMIINT INTEL845> on motherboard
pcibios: BIOS version 2.10
Using $PIR table, 6 entries at 0xc00f78a0
acpi0: power button is handled as a fixed feature programming model.
Timecounter "ACPI-fast"  frequency 3579545 Hz
    ACPI-1287: *** Error: Method execution failed [\\_SB_.PCI0.MDET] (Node 0xc150ed20), AE_AML_REGION_LIMIT
    ACPI-1287: *** Error: Method execution failed [\\_SB_.PCI0._CRS] (Node 0xc150ec60), AE_AML_REGION_LIMIT
    ACPI-0175: *** Error: Method execution failed [\\_SB_.PCI0._CRS] (Node 0xc150ec60), AE_AML_REGION_LIMIT
can't fetch resources for \\_SB_.PCI0 - AE_AML_REGION_LIMIT
    ACPI-1287: *** Error: Method execution failed [\\_SB_.PCI0.MDET] (Node 0xc150ed20), AE_AML_REGION_LIMIT
    ACPI-1287: *** Error: Method execution failed [\\_SB_.MEM_._CRS] (Node 0xc4046a20), AE_AML_REGION_LIMIT
    ACPI-0175: *** Error: Method execution failed [\\_SB_.MEM_._CRS] (Node 0xc4046a20), AE_AML_REGION_LIMIT
can't fetch resources for \\_SB_.MEM_ - AE_AML_REGION_LIMIT
acpi_timer0: <24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x808-0x80b on acpi0
acpi_cpu0: <CPU> on acpi0
acpi_button0: <Power Button> on acpi0
pcib0: <ACPI Host-PCI bridge> on acpi0
pci0: <ACPI PCI bus> on pcib0
agp0: <Intel 82845 host to AGP bridge> mem 0xe0000000-0xe7ffffff at device 0.0 on pci0
pcib1: <PCIBIOS PCI-PCI bridge> at device 1.0 on pci0
pci1: <PCI bus> on pcib1
pci1: <display, VGA> at device 0.0 (no driver attached)
pcib2: <ACPI PCI-PCI bridge> at device 30.0 on pci0
pci2: <ACPI PCI bus> on pcib2
pcm0: <Creative EMU10K1> port 0xc800-0xc81f irq 12 at device 3.0 on pci2
pcm0: <SigmaTel STAC9708/11 AC97 Codec>
pci2: <simple comms> at device 4.0 (no driver attached)
isab0: <PCI-ISA bridge> at device 31.0 on pci0
isa0: <ISA bus> on isab0
atapci0: <Intel ICH2 UDMA100 controller> port 0xfc00-0xfc0f at device 31.1 on pci0
ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0
ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0
uhci0: <Intel 82801BA/BAM (ICH2) USB controller USB-A> port 0xe800-0xe81f irq 12 at device 31.2 on pci0
usb0: <Intel 82801BA/BAM (ICH2) USB controller USB-A> on uhci0
usb0: USB revision 1.0
uhub0: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
pci0: <serial bus, SMBus> at device 31.3 (no driver attached)
uhci1: <Intel 82801BA/BAM (ICH2) USB controller USB-B> port 0xec00-0xec1f irq 10 at device 31.4 on pci0
usb1: <Intel 82801BA/BAM (ICH2) USB controller USB-B> on uhci1
usb1: USB revision 1.0
uhub1: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
sio0 port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 on acpi0
sio0: type 16550A
sio1 port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on acpi0
sio1: type 16550A
ppc0 port 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on acpi0
ppc0: Generic chipset (NIBBLE-only) in COMPATIBLE mode
ppbus0: <Parallel port bus> on ppc0
plip0: <PLIP network interface> on ppbus0
lpt0: <Printer> on ppbus0
lpt0: Interrupt-driven port
ppi0: <Parallel I/O> on ppbus0
atkbdc0: <Keyboard controller (i8042)> port 0x64,0x60 irq 1 on acpi0
atkbd0: <AT Keyboard> flags 0x1 irq 1 on atkbdc0
kbd0 at atkbd0
npx0: <math processor> on motherboard
npx0: INT 16 interface
pmtimer0 on isa0
fdc0: cannot reserve I/O port range (6 ports)
pcic0 at port 0x3e0 iomem 0xd0000-0xd1fff irq 5 on isa0
pcic_attach: attach found no sockets
device_probe_and_attach: pcic0 attach returned 6
sc0: <System console> at flags 0x100 on isa0
sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300>
vga0: <Generic ISA VGA> at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0
Timecounters tick every 10.000 msec
acpi_cpu: throttling enabled, 8 steps (100% to 12.5%), currently 100.0%
ad0: 38166MB <ST340016A> [77545/16/63] at ata0-master UDMA100
acd0: CD-RW <YAMAHA CRW3200E> at ata1-master PIO4
acd1: CDROM <ASUS CD-S500/A> at ata1-slave PIO4
Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s3a
KLD fire_saver.ko: depends on splash - not available

---------------------------------------

Here is kernel config
I deleted some devices.
I don't have them but I didn't change lines about floppy (I think so).

--------------------------------------

machine         i386
cpu             I686_CPU
ident           NovAD_3c

#To statically compile in device wiring instead of /boot/device.hints
#hints          "GENERIC.hints"         #Default places to look for devices.

options         CPU_ENABLE_SSE
options         SCHED_4BSD              #4BSD scheduler
options         INET                    #InterNETworking
options         INET6                   #IPv6 communications protocols
options         FFS                     #Berkeley Fast Filesystem
options         SOFTUPDATES             #Enable FFS soft updates support
options         UFS_ACL                 #Support for access control lists
options         UFS_DIRHASH             #Improve performance on big directories
options         MD_ROOT                 #MD is a potential root device
options         MSDOSFS                 #MSDOS Filesystem
options         CD9660                  #ISO 9660 Filesystem
options         PROCFS                  #Process filesystem (requires PSEUDOFS)
options         PSEUDOFS                #Pseudo-filesystem framework
options         COMPAT_43               #Compatible with BSD 4.3 [KEEP THIS!]
options         COMPAT_FREEBSD4         #Compatible with FreeBSD4
options         SCSI_DELAY=15000        #Delay (in ms) before probing SCSI
options         KTRACE                  #ktrace(1) support
options         SYSVSHM                 #SYSV-style shared memory
options         SYSVMSG                 #SYSV-style message queues
options         SYSVSEM                 #SYSV-style semaphores
options         _KPOSIX_PRIORITY_SCHEDULING #Posix P1003_1B real-time extensions
options         KBD_INSTALL_CDEV        # install a CDEV entry in /dev
options         AHC_REG_PRETTY_PRINT    # Print register bitfields in debug
                                        # output.  Adds ~128k to driver.
options         AHD_REG_PRETTY_PRINT    # Print register bitfields in debug
                                        # output.  Adds ~215k to driver.

# Debugging for use in -current
#!!!options     INVARIANT_SUPPORT       #Extra sanity checks of internal structures, required by INVARIANTS

# To make an SMP kernel, the next two are needed

device          isa
device          eisa
device          pci
device          pcm
device          acpi

# Floppy drives
device          fdc

# ATA and ATAPI devices
device          ata
device          atadisk                 # ATA disk drives
device          atapicd                 # ATAPI CDROM drives
device          atapifd                 # ATAPI floppy drives
device          atapist                 # ATAPI tape drives
options         ATA_STATIC_ID           #Static device numbering


# SCSI peripherals
device          scbus           # SCSI bus (required)
device          da              # Direct Access (disks)

# atkbdc0 controls both the keyboard and the PS/2 mouse
device          atkbdc          # AT keyboard controller
device          atkbd           # AT keyboard
device          psm             # PS/2 mouse
device          vga             # VGA video card driver

# syscons is the default console driver, resembling an SCO console
device          sc

device          agp             # support several AGP chipsets

# Floating point support - do not disable.
device          npx

# Add suspend/resume support for the i8254.
device          pmtimer

# PCCARD (PCMCIA) support
# Pcmcia and cardbus bridge support
device          cbb                     # cardbus (yenta) bridge
device          pcic                    # ExCA ISA and PCI bridges
device          pccard                  # PC Card (16-bit) bus
device          cardbus                 # CardBus (32-bit) bus

# Serial (COM) ports
device          sio             # 8250, 16[45]50 based serial ports

# Parallel port
device          ppc
device          ppbus           # Parallel port bus (required)
device          lpt             # Printer
device          plip            # TCP/IP over parallel
device          ppi             # Parallel port interface device

# NOTE: Be sure to keep the 'device miibus' line in order to use these NICs!
device          miibus          # MII bus support

# Pseudo devices - the number indicates how many units to allocate.
device          random          # Entropy device
device          loop            # Network loopback
device          ether           # Ethernet support
device          sl              # Kernel SLIP
device          ppp             # Kernel PPP
device          tun             # Packet tunnel.
device          pty             # Pseudo-ttys (telnet etc)
device          md              # Memory "disks"
device          gif             # IPv6 and IPv4 tunneling
device          faith           # IPv6-to-IPv4 relaying (translation)

# The `bpf' device enables the Berkeley Packet Filter.
# Be aware of the administrative consequences of enabling this!
device          bpf             # Berkeley packet filter

# USB support
device          uhci            # UHCI PCI->USB interface
device          ohci            # OHCI PCI->USB interface
device          usb             # USB Bus (required)
device          ugen            # Generic
device          umass           # Disks/Mass storage - Requires scbus and da

# FireWire support
device          firewire        # FireWire bus code
device          sbp             # SCSI over FireWire (Requires scbus and da)
#device         fwe             # Ethernet over FireWire (non-standard!) 
--------------------------------------


Tuesday, January 20, 2004, 6:01:53 PM, you wrote:
f> Friend
f> I think I see your problem in the boot log.
f> FBSD is having problems reading your PC's bios.
f> Enter your PC bio's menu and disable all options dealing with power
f> management.
f> While you are there also disable any plug-n-play option and if there
f> is an operating system option change that to 'other' or at least not
f> ms/windows.

f> http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=acpi&apropos=0&sektion=0&ma
f> npath=FreeBSD+5.2-RELEASE+and+Ports&format=html

f> acpi -- Advanced Configuration and Power Management support



f> -----Original Message-----
f> From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
f> [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Алексей
f> Дмитриевич
f> Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2004 8:16 AM
f> To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
f> Subject: Problem with foppy drive

f> Hello Друг( it means friend on russian)

f> Now I'll try to answer your questions.
f> I tested my floppy drive in the same way
f> 1. Boot one Operating System
f> 2. Write some data on the floppy disc (usually it is mp3-files or
f>    jpg-files)
f> 3. Reboot my PC and boot another OS
f> 4. Check data - everything good
f> 5. Format disc and test again in the same way

f> Also I read and wrote data on my discs on another PC during this
f> term
f> and didn't have problems

f> Next question about hardware

f>  1. Soltek mainboard
f>    SL-85DIR
f>    Socket 478 Mainboard
f>    Intel 845d series
f>  2. nVidia G-force 4 MX 440 64MB DDR (AGP)
f>  3. 512MB DDR RAM memory
f>  4. Creative Sound Blaster Live!5.1
f>  5. Winmodem ZyXEL Omni 56K PCI (i thinc FreeBSD know nothing about
f> it)
f>  6. Asus CD-ROM drive 50x IDE
f>  7. Yamaha 3200 CD-RW drive
f>  8. Intel Pentium 4 Processor Socket 478
f>  9. HDD 40 Gb SEAGATE UDMA 7200 BARRACUDA
f> 10. and this floppy drive
f> I think that's all
f> My PC is 1.5 years old.
f> I bought in 24-July-2002
f> About scsi:
f> There is no scsi in my computer so floppy drive is not scsi

f> when I try :
f>   mount -t msdos /dev/fd0 /mnt
f> my system displays :
f> msdosfs : /dev/fd0: No sush file or directory
f> I can say that there was no time whan this file existed
f> so i cannot mount floppy

f> Here is /var/run/dmesg.boot

f> Copyright (c) 1992-2003 The FreeBSD Project.
f> Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993,
f> 1994
f>         The Regents of the University of California. All rights
f> reserved.
f> FreeBSD 5.1-RELEASE #0: Fri Jan 16 18:39:42 MSK 2004
f>     root@:/usr/src/sys/i386/compile/NovAD3a
f> Preloaded elf kernel "/boot/kernel/kernel" at 0xc054a000.
f> Preloaded elf module "/boot/kernel/acpi.ko" at 0xc054a26c.
f> Timecounter "i8254"  frequency 1193182 Hz
f> Timecounter "TSC"  frequency 1817949908 Hz
f> CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 1.80GHz (1817.95-MHz 686-class CPU)
f>   Origin = "GenuineIntel"  Id = 0xf24  Stepping = 4

f> Features=0x3febf9ff<FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,SEP,MTRR,PGE,
f> MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CLFLUSH,DTS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM>
f> real memory  = 536805376 (511 MB)
f> avail memory = 515624960 (491 MB)
f> Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled
f> npx0: <math processor> on motherboard
f> npx0: INT 16 interface
f> acpi0: <AMIINT INTEL845> on motherboard
f> pcibios: BIOS version 2.10
f> Using $PIR table, 6 entries at 0xc00f78a0
f> acpi0: power button is handled as a fixed feature programming model.
f> Timecounter "ACPI-fast"  frequency 3579545 Hz
f>     ACPI-1287: *** Error: Method execution failed [\\_SB_.PCI0.MDET]
f> (Node 0xc150ec60), AE_AML_REGION_LIMIT
f>     ACPI-1287: *** Error: Method execution failed [\\_SB_.PCI0._CRS]
f> (Node 0xc150eba0), AE_AML_REGION_LIMIT
f>     ACPI-0175: *** Error: Method execution failed [\\_SB_.PCI0._CRS]
f> (Node 0xc150eba0), AE_AML_REGION_LIMIT
f> can't fetch resources for \\_SB_.PCI0 - AE_AML_REGION_LIMIT
f>     ACPI-1287: *** Error: Method execution failed [\\_SB_.PCI0.MDET]
f> (Node 0xc150ec60), AE_AML_REGION_LIMIT
f>     ACPI-1287: *** Error: Method execution failed [\\_SB_.MEM_._CRS]
f> (Node 0xc4047960), AE_AML_REGION_LIMIT
f>     ACPI-0175: *** Error: Method execution failed [\\_SB_.MEM_._CRS]
f> (Node 0xc4047960), AE_AML_REGION_LIMIT
f> can't fetch resources for \\_SB_.MEM_ - AE_AML_REGION_LIMIT
f> acpi_timer0: <24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x808-0x80b on acpi0
f> acpi_cpu0: <CPU> port 0x530-0x537 on acpi0
f> acpi_button0: <Power Button> on acpi0
f> pcib0: <ACPI Host-PCI bridge> on acpi0
f> pci0: <ACPI PCI bus> on pcib0
f> agp0: <Intel 82845 host to AGP bridge> mem 0xe0000000-0xe7ffffff at
f> device 0.0 on pci0
f> pcib1: <PCIBIOS PCI-PCI bridge> at device 1.0 on pci0
f> pci1: <PCI bus> on pcib1
f> pci1: <display, VGA> at device 0.0 (no driver attached)
f> pcib2: <ACPI PCI-PCI bridge> at device 30.0 on pci0
f> pci2: <ACPI PCI bus> on pcib2
f> pcm0: <Creative EMU10K1> port 0xc800-0xc81f irq 12 at device 3.0 on
f> pci2
f> pcm0: <SigmaTel STAC9708/11 AC97 Codec>
f> pci2: <simple comms> at device 4.0 (no driver attached)
f> isab0: <PCI-ISA bridge> at device 31.0 on pci0
f> isa0: <ISA bus> on isab0
f> atapci0: <Intel ICH2 UDMA100 controller> port 0xfc00-0xfc0f at
f> device 31.1 on pci0
f> ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0
f> ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0
f> uhci0: <Intel 82801BA/BAM (ICH2) USB controller USB-A> port
f> 0xe800-0xe81f irq 12 at device 31.2 on pci0
f> usb0: <Intel 82801BA/BAM (ICH2) USB controller USB-A> on uhci0
f> usb0: USB revision 1.0
f> uhub0: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
f> uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
f> pci0: <serial bus, SMBus> at device 31.3 (no driver attached)
f> uhci1: <Intel 82801BA/BAM (ICH2) USB controller USB-B> port
f> 0xec00-0xec1f irq 10 at device 31.4 on pci0
f> usb1: <Intel 82801BA/BAM (ICH2) USB controller USB-B> on uhci1
f> usb1: USB revision 1.0
f> uhub1: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
f> uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
f> fdc0: cmd 3 failed at out byte 1 of 3
f> sio0 port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 on acpi0
f> sio0: type 16550A
f> sio1 port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on acpi0
f> sio1: type 16550A
f> ppc0 port 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on acpi0
f> ppc0: Generic chipset (NIBBLE-only) in COMPATIBLE mode
f> ppbus0: <Parallel port bus> on ppc0
f> plip0: <PLIP network interface> on ppbus0
f> lpt0: <Printer> on ppbus0
f> lpt0: Interrupt-driven port
f> ppi0: <Parallel I/O> on ppbus0
f> atkbdc0: <Keyboard controller (i8042)> port 0x64,0x60 irq 1 on acpi0
f> atkbd0: <AT Keyboard> flags 0x1 irq 1 on atkbdc0
f> kbd0 at atkbd0
f> fdc0: cmd 3 failed at out byte 1 of 3
f> pmtimer0 on isa0
f> fdc0: cannot reserve I/O port range (6 ports)
f> pcic0 at port 0x3e0 iomem 0xd0000-0xd1fff irq 5 on isa0
f> pcic_attach: attach found no sockets
f> device_probe_and_attach: pcic0 attach returned 6
f> sc0: <System console> at flags 0x100 on isa0
f> sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300>
f> vga0: <Generic ISA VGA> at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on
f> isa0
f> Timecounters tick every 10.000 msec
f> acpi_cpu: throttling enabled, 8 steps (100% to 12.5%), currently
f> 100.0%
f> ad0: 38166MB <ST340016A> [77545/16/63] at ata0-master UDMA100
f> acd0: CD-RW <YAMAHA CRW3200E> at ata1-master PIO4
f> acd1: CDROM <ASUS CD-S500/A> at ata1-slave PIO4
f> Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s3a

f> That's all.
f> P.S.
f> Thank you that you try to help me.

f> Sunday, January 18, 2004, 7:28:54 PM, you wrote:

f>> Hello friend
f>> Post the /var/run/dmesg.boot file in your next email, so I can
f> look
f>> for problems.
f>> Explain how you tested floppy drive using different operating
f>> systems.
f>> What hardware is in the PC?
f>> How old is the PC?
f>> Is it pre-Y2K?

f>> Is this an scsi floppy drive?


f>> Tell me what happens when you try this

f>> Login in as root user
f>> Put msdos formatted floppy disk in drive
f>> Issue this command
f>>      mount -t msdos /dev/fd0 /mnt
f>>      cd /mnt
f>>      ls
f>>      cd /root
f>>      umount /mnt





f>> -----Original Message-----
f>> From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
f>> [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Алексей
f>> Дмитриевич
f>> Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2004 10:10 AM
f>> To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
f>> Subject: Problem with foppy drive

f>> Hello ,   Support
f>> I used my floppy just now in Ms Windows XP and it works.
f>> Also i used it in ASPlinux 7.2 and Linux Mandrake 9.1 (russian)
f>> and it worked very good.
f>> So what should i do. if it is possible please write as detailly
f> as
f>> possible because i know FreeBSD badly (i use it for about 3
f> weeks)




f>> This boot error message general means that your floppy drive is
f>> broken.
f>> When was the last time you used it?
f>> Try to verify that it's in working order by booting an MS/Window
f>> system on that PC,
f>> or swap that floppy drive with one from some other PC that you
f> can
f>> test works first.

f>> -----Original Message-----
f>> From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
f>> [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Алексей
f>> Дмитриевич
f>> Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2004 8:28 AM
f>> To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
f>> Subject: FreeBSD support

f>> Hello Support,
f>> I have a problem my floppy drive does not want to work.
f>> when my FreeBSD 5.1 boots I have a message
f>> fdc0: cmd 3 faild at out byte 1 of 3
f>> and
f>> cannot reserve I/O port range (6 port)

f>> After logining I cannot use my floppy drive- there is no device
f>> file.
f>> What should I do?



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 Алексей                            mailto:novad@newmail.ru



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