Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 14:54:14 +0800 From: "Love Bug" <Love@fil.net> To: sthaug@nethelp.no Cc: troy@picus.com, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: LAN detection? Message-ID: <39433796.86535D51@fil.net> References: <FCEELIAEIIECDGKKJLMIEEDGCAAA.troy@picus.com> <85862.960658035@verdi.nethelp.no>
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sthaug@nethelp.no wrote: > > I know you probably have your reasons for wanting to do this, but I'm at > > a loss as to why you percieve it as an issue.. > > > > A user is connected to your PM2-30, the fastest they're connecting is > > 33.6Kb/s. What does it matter if they have 1 computer or 10 behind that > > connection? They can't exceed the 33.6 limit imposed by the connection. > > It's all about average bandwidth usage. An ISP sets the monthly fee > based, among other things, on an estimated bandwidth per client. If > you have 10 computers behind a 33.6 line, your average bandwidth usage > is going to be higher than with one computer. If enough users are doing > this, it's going to be clearly noticeable. > > You can compare this with leased line customers - most leased line > contracts have a clause prohibiting resale of bandwidth. A leased line > customer who wants to resell bandwidth usually pays more for the same > nominal bandwidth. > > That being said, I think it's a waste of time to try to detect users who > are doing this. Much simpler to bill them directly on bandwidth usage - > and as long as they know about it, they can't complain. > > Steinar Haug, Nethelp consulting, sthaug@nethelp.no Exactly, a full 33.6 line costs us US$ 4,725 /month the single line is based on a AVERAGE of 5 Kbps. An "Internet Cafe" that logs in with 20 computers can suck the full 33.6 line. > That being said, I think it's a waste of time > to try to detect users who are doing this. > Much simpler to bill them directly on > bandwidth usage - and as long as they > know about it, they can't complain. We could parse the detail file for bytes delivered. Questions come to mind about information originating with our site, or from our proxy... Is it really fair to charge the same for this "cheap" bandwidth as well as for the "expensive" bandwidth? Sincerely, Love To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message
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