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Date:      Thu, 18 Jan 2001 08:54:34 GMT
From:      Cliff Sarginson <cliff@raggedclown.net>
To:        Neil Blakey-Milner <nbm@mithrandr.moria.org>, Dima Dorfman <dima@unixfreak.org>, Dan Langille <dan@langille.org>, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: too much confusion over kernel building
Message-ID:  <E14JAq2-000Nmv-00@post.mail.nl.demon.net>

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hello,

This thread has turned very esoteric and has now moved into the
realms of the hackers.
It might be worth saying that if this thread created so much hacker-dom
imagine what problems new kids on the block may be having...

Cliff

> On Wed 2001-01-17 (23:53), Dima Dorfman wrote:
> > > On Thu 2001-01-18 (20:22), Dan Langille wrote:
> > > > It might be because it doesn't work.  The following box works with the 
> > > > "old" style, but fails with the "new" style:
> > > 
> > > There'll probably be a 'nm' error somewhere above.  I've asked people to
> > > comment, including Marcel, and haven't got any replies.
> > > 
> > > The "new" style should be the same as the "old" style.  If it's broken,
> > > fix the "new" style, don't suggest the "old" style.
> > 
> > I'm in the same boat.  I always thought that buildkernel would revert
> > to using the installed binaries if there's nothing useful in /usr/obj.
> > If the source tree you're building is the same as the running one, it
> > shouldn't fail.
> 
> This is causing the problem:
> 
> My reminder to Marcel and other hackers that this problem exists:
> 
>
http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=729536+733077+/usr/local/www/db/text/2000/cvs-all/20001224.cvs-all

> 
> Marcel, the designer of the new system, saying that buildkernel should
> revert to the running system in the absence of a populated /usr/obj:
> 
>
http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=761905+765570+/usr/local/www/db/text/2000/cvs-all/20001224.cvs-all

> 
> A description of why 'nm' is failing:
> 
>
http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=837688+841420+/usr/local/www/db/text/2000/cvs-all/20001224.cvs-all

> 
> Anyway, I'll quickly test the patches, and ask for someone to review
> again.
> 
> Neil
> -- 
> Neil Blakey-Milner
> nbm@mithrandr.moria.org
> 
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