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Date:      Tue, 2 Mar 1999 13:54:54 -0800
From:      Gregory Sutter <gsutter@pobox.com>
To:        Brett Glass <brett@lariat.org>
Cc:        Bill Fumerola <billf@chc-chimes.com>, Adam Turoff <aturoff@isinet.com>, freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: bsd vs. linux and NT chart
Message-ID:  <19990302135454.D18602@orcrist.mediacity.com>
In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990302142419.00adaba0@localhost>; from Brett Glass on Tue, Mar 02, 1999 at 02:34:07PM -0700
References:  <4.1.19990302134418.00a12530@localhost> <4.1.19990302132445.040f6d40@localhost> <Pine.HPP.3.96.990302153710.22218Z-100000@hp9000.chc-chimes <4.1.19990302134418.00a12530@localhost> <19990302132052.C18602@orcrist.mediacity.com> <4.1.19990302142419.00adaba0@localhost>

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On Tue, Mar 02, 1999 at 02:34:07PM -0700, Brett Glass wrote:
> At 01:20 PM 3/2/99 -0800, Gregory Sutter wrote:
>  
> >Having two floppies is far far better than having
> >different floppies for different types of installations (e.g. the
> >network install floppies, the cdrom install floppy, the nullmodem
> >install floppy (ouch), etc.).
> 
> Actually, having a separate CD-ROM install floppy would be fine,
> because it'd be easy to generate it from the CD-ROM if need be.
> People doing network installs would generate their floppies from
> the Net. But I think that even this just MIGHT be avoidable if
> the install kernel were simply streamlined for installation.

Two floppies for any situation strikes me as better than one-disk
and two-disk separate sets for different situations.  Having two
floppies also allows more space for things like the new installation
system that will be in 4.0.  I haven't seen the system, but from its
list of features, it seems like trying to cram that along with a
generic kernel and associated tools onto one floppy would be very
difficult.
 
> >The goal is not to leapfrog Linux or any other operating system.  
> 
> The goal is always to improve the system's usability. And in this
> case, it's a very worthy goal to leapfrog Linux as well. The
> BSDs have been unfairly maligned by the Linux "faithful" and
> need a boost.

Does it matter if they malign FreeBSD?  Let them!  The clueful will do
as they always do and use the product that they find best.  The clueless
will plant their feet and refuse to consider alternatives, instead
choosing to malign and spread disinformation about everything except
their chosen product.

> >The goal is to provide the best possible OS.
> 
> The best possible OS would install from one floppy at most.

You didn't read a word I wrote, did you?  I said specifically, "This
sometimes means making compromises in certain areas in exchange for
superior overall quality."  We've compromised on the single-floppy
install in exchange for superior quality of installation, and therefore,
superior quality overall.  A second floppy is not that big a compromise.

Greg
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