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Date:      Thu, 12 Sep 2013 15:02:02 -1000
From:      Jonathon Wright <jonathon.s.wright@gmail.com>
To:        Kimmo Paasiala <kpaasial@gmail.com>
Cc:        "freebsd-security@freebsd.org" <freebsd-security@freebsd.org>, Guy Helmer <guy.helmer@gmail.com>, Julian Elischer <julian@freebsd.org>, John-Mark Gurney <jmg@funkthat.com>
Subject:   Re: FreeBSD Transient Memory problem?
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I agree Kimmo,

Its much like the certification of professionals. I had to get 4-5 certs
just to keep my job, regardless if I knew how to do it or not. We even lost
people who were fired because they could not get the certs, yet had been
doing the job for a very long time.

...its a paper, nothing more to me.


On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 2:54 PM, Kimmo Paasiala <kpaasial@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 3:47 AM, Jonathon Wright
> <jonathon.s.wright@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Thanks Brett,
> >
> > That item just made it to the top of the argument list I'm formulating
> > right now from everyone's input. =)
> > That makes a very strong argument for the OS as "approved".
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 2:39 PM, Brett Glass <brett@lariat.org> wrote:
> >
> >> One other point of possible interest which points out how silly
> >> this whole thing is.
> >>
> >> While the NIAP Web site does not list FreeBSD as a "compliant"
> >> operating system product, it lists Juniper routers, which run an
> >> embedded version of FreeBSD, as compliant. See
> >>
> >> https://www.niap-ccevs.org/**CCEVS_Products/pcl.cfm?tech_**name=Router<;
> https://www.niap-ccevs.org/CCEVS_Products/pcl.cfm?tech_name=Router>;
> >>
> >> There may be other products which have "FreeBSD inside" on their
> >> list as well.
> >>
> >> --Brett Glass
> >>
> >>
>
> Unfortunately that might just mean that the company behind Juniper has
> payed enough money to get their product certified while basic FreeBSD
> remains uncertified. All this certification business is corruption if
> you ask me.
>
>
> -Kimmo
>



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