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Date:      Mon, 16 Jul 2001 15:26:30 -0500
From:      Alfred Perlstein <bright@sneakerz.org>
To:        Jason Francis <jasonf@citynet.net>
Cc:        freebsd-fs@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Porting a new filesystem to FreeBSD
Message-ID:  <20010716152630.A22070@sneakerz.org>
In-Reply-To: <003001c10e33$f3e3fb50$0200000a@Neptune>; from jasonf@citynet.net on Mon, Jul 16, 2001 at 04:14:42PM -0400
References:  <20010712225653.75AD13811@overcee.netplex.com.au> <003001c10e33$f3e3fb50$0200000a@Neptune>

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* Jason Francis <jasonf@citynet.net> [010716 15:13] wrote:
> Has the proposition of porting another filesystem to FreeBSD been
> considered?  Given FFS's rather dismal performance compared to other
> filesystems, it would seem like a worthwhile effort.
> 
> Market share of BSD in generally is dwindling, and things like the
> filesystem, lack of a multi-threaded IP stack, and lacking SMP support are
> precisely what's killing it.
> 
> So, has there been any effort made by the community to get either a new
> filesystem written or an existing filesystem ported to FreeBSD?

Let me make a couple of things absolutely clear:

1) FreeBSD has supported large files for years before
   commercial versions of unix have, and now that they do
   they have yummy interfaces like stat64.  I think Linux 
   finally got around to large file support about 6 months
   to a year ago.

2) FreeBSD (*BSD) filesystem performance is quite acceptable,
   some commercial variants exist that outperform it, but there's
   useless microbenchmarks to prove either way.

3) FreeBSD filesystem stability is a reality unlike under linux
   where you really have no choice when it comes to a stable and
   fast filesystem.  You can run unproven new systems such as
   Reiser or ext3, or you can pay through the nose for systems
   like Veratis volume manager suite.

4) FreeBSD has supported SMP for at least 4 years now.  The kernel
   is still mostly non-reentrant right now, but it's getting there.

5) For someone who seems quite sure about the "dwindling marketshare"
   of FreeBSD you sure haven't done a lot of research.

Lastly, if you want to complain about BSD without contributing
anything you can reach a much wider audience of lamers (like
yourself) by posting here:

http://www.slashdot.org/

Other fun things to post about are:

"First Post."
"Natalie Portman."
"Relative merits of the GPL versus gargonzola cheeze."
"How sun spots are contributing to the death of *BSD."

happy hacking,
-- 
-Alfred Perlstein [alfred@freebsd.org]
Ok, who wrote this damn function called '??'?
And why do my programs keep crashing in it?

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