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Date:      Fri, 13 Apr 2001 09:28:27 +0200
From:      Poul-Henning Kamp <phk@critter.freebsd.dk>
To:        Matt Dillon <dillon@earth.backplane.com>
Cc:        Rik van Riel <riel@conectiva.com.br>, David Xu <bsddiy@21cn.com>, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: vm balance 
Message-ID:  <64013.987146907@critter>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 12 Apr 2001 14:24:36 PDT." <200104122124.f3CLOaq25845@earth.backplane.com> 

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In message <200104122124.f3CLOaq25845@earth.backplane.com>, Matt Dillon writes:
>:>:>    scaleability.
>:>:
>:>:Uhm, that is actually not true.
>:>:
>:>:We keep namecache entries around as long as we can use them, and that
>:>:generally means that recreating them is a rather expensive operation,
>:>:involving creation of vnode and very likely a vm object again.
>:>
>:>    The vnode cache is a different cache.   positive namei hits will
>:>    reference a vnode, but namei elements can be flushed at any 
>:>    time without flushing the underlying vnode.
>:
>:Right, but doing so means that to refind that vnode from the name
>:is (comparatively) very expensive.
>:
>:--
>:Poul-Henning Kamp       | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20
>:phk@FreeBSD.ORG         | TCP/IP since RFC 956
>
>    The only thing that is truely expensive is having to physically
>    scan a large directory in order to instantiate a new namei 
>    record.  Everything else is inexpensive by comparison (by two
>    orders of magnitude!), even constructing new vnodes.  
>
>    Without vmiodirenable turned on, any directory [...]

It's worse than that, we are still way too rude in throwing away
directory data...

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