Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2004 22:35:44 -0600 (MDT) From: "M. Warner Losh" <imp@bsdimp.com> To: marcel@xcllnt.net Cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HEADS UP! KSE needs more attention Message-ID: <20040606.223544.13027668.imp@bsdimp.com> In-Reply-To: <20040606220432.GA97091@dhcp50.pn.xcllnt.net> References: <20040606211249.GC96607@dhcp50.pn.xcllnt.net> <Pine.GSO.4.10.10406061717480.7928-100000@pcnet5.pcnet.com> <20040606220432.GA97091@dhcp50.pn.xcllnt.net>
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Marcel Moolenaar <marcel@xcllnt.net> writes:
: On Sun, Jun 06, 2004 at 05:27:56PM -0400, Daniel Eischen wrote:
: >
: > > As for alpha, we don't even seem to be able to degrade it to tier 2
: > > without losing face. kris@ has already stopped package builds for it
: > > for his own sake.
: >
: > We shouldn't keep an arch at tier 1 just to save face. Better to just
: > lower it to tier 2 and be done with it. My $.02, FWIW.
:
: You misunderstand my statement. Lowering alpha to tier 2 is what I
: suggested multiple times before. The point is that we haven't yet
: and alpha is degenerating more and more while we fail to adjust
: the tierness. That's where we fail to save face.
I tend to agree. Tierness is a combination of politics and technical
reality. The rality of the situation with alpha is that it has had no
clothes long enough that it no longer reflects the Tier-1 ideas that
we strive to attain.
Warner
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