Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 17:36:42 +0000 (GMT) From: Terry Lambert <tlambert@primenet.com> To: jdn@acp.qiv.com (Jay Nelson) Cc: tlambert@primenet.com, chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: On hub.freebsd.org refusing to talk to dialups Message-ID: <199909291736.KAA16816@usr06.primenet.com> In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.05.9909281947120.769-100000@acp.qiv.com> from "Jay Nelson" at Sep 28, 99 08:06:16 pm
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> >> I was dubious; I waited more than a year after hearing about the DUL > >> to implement it. But when I finally tried it, I found that it was > >> highly effective; it targeted spam like a laser and rejected no > >> legitimate traffic. > > > >That you are aware of, in your less-complicated-than-an-ISP setup. > > Hmm... maybe it would be helpful if you explained to those of us that > live in a "less-complicated-than-an-ISP" world, those of us who pay > for internet _service_ why we should change our attitude? When IPv6 becomes widely deployed, it will be possible to attach a machine to any network, and through stateless autoconfiguration obtain a valid, routable IPv6 address -- a "static" address. This is tantamount to a "roaming" cell phone obtaining cellular service from a local cell. The only real difference is that a cell phone has a cryptographic "certificate" identifying the phone, so that abuse can be detected and service discontinued. Are you going to place the entire IPv6 stateless autoconfiguration space into the DUL? Good frigging luck. I don't think the people with Palm VII's or Nokia Cell phones, etc., will really stand for you denying them the ability to use their digital mobile communications devices to communicate. It would be nice if people would look beyond 6-8 months into the future when they are implementing things like SPAM protection, so that we don't have to reinvent our arms for the SPAM arms race every 6 months. The DUL will not survive the IPv6 transition as a useful tool (weapon) against SPAM, nor will it survive wide spread standardization of mobile IP technology. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the messagehelp
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