Date: Sat, 04 May 2002 20:06:25 -0600 (MDT) From: "M. Warner Losh" <imp@village.org> To: grog@FreeBSD.org Cc: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/share/man/man4 wi.4 Message-ID: <20020504.200625.27194416.imp@village.org> In-Reply-To: <20020505093336.E34811@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <20020504113032.D12386@wantadilla.lemis.com> <20020503.224516.115910512.imp@village.org> <20020505093336.E34811@wantadilla.lemis.com>
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"Greg 'groggy' Lehey" <grog@FreeBSD.org> writes:
: On Friday, 3 May 2002 at 22:45:16 -0600, Warner Losh wrote:
: > In message: <20020504113032.D12386@wantadilla.lemis.com>
: > "Greg 'groggy' Lehey" <grog@FreeBSD.org> writes:
: >> On Friday, 3 May 2002 at 11:11:18 -0700, Warner Losh wrote:
: >>> imp 2002/05/03 11:11:18 PDT
: >>>
: >>> Modified files:
: >>> share/man/man4 wi.4
: >>> Log:
: >>> Minor tweaks:
: >>> o go ahead and document ibss-master and ibss modes, since there are
: >>> patches in the pipeline to support them.
: >>
: >> OK, now I'm thoroughly confused. What's the difference between IBSS
: >> and IBSS master? My understanding was that the term "master" applied
: >> to the station providing the BSSID in IBSS mode, and that it didn't do
: >> anything else. Is this just a way to tell the driver whether to form
: >> an IBSS or not? If so, I'd suggest that you find some other term to
: >> describe that station, since "master" suggests some other
: >> functionality.
: >
: > No, that't it. ibss-master provides the network name so that all the
: > other cards can talk to each other. OpenBSD already uses this term,
: > and there's absolutely no sense in being gratutitously incompatible.
:
: That's true enough, but who do you want to be compatible with? This
: term is also gratuitously incompatible with the standard, and it
: confuses the hell out of most people, including seasoned BSD hackers.
I want to be compatible with the OpenBSD people. I'd rather be
compatible with them than not, even if it is a little incompatible
with the standard. And it isn't even that incompatible with the
standard. The 'master' in an ibss network doesn't have a standard
name that I've read.
: > It isn't ideal, but changing the name will make it harder to share
: > code with OpenBSD. I'm trying to merge the drivers, so that is a
: > big deal to me. Since OpenBSD has already done 3.1 with
: > "ibss-master" in it, it is too late for them to change, so we're
: > stuck with it.
:
: Well, it's too late for them to change for 3.1, but if something's
: wrong, it makes sense to change it. What we should do is discuss it
: with the OpenBSD people (and presumably the NetBSD people too).
Go for it. I have no time or energy for such metters.
Warner
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