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Date:      Thu, 30 Jan 2020 13:07:37 +0000
From:      Bob Bishop <rb@gid.co.uk>
To:        Poul-Henning Kamp <phk@phk.freebsd.dk>
Cc:        Emmanuel Vadot <manu@bidouilliste.net>, Paul Mather <paul@gromit.dlib.vt.edu>, Robert Clausecker <fuz@fuz.su>, freebsd-arm <freebsd-arm@freebsd.org>, freebsd-arch <freebsd-arch@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: arm64 as Tier 1 for FreeBSD 13
Message-ID:  <B1F155C4-5C20-4E33-9420-DF7D67253083@gid.co.uk>
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Hi,

> On 29 Jan 2020, at 21:36, Poul-Henning Kamp <phk@phk.freebsd.dk> =
wrote:
>=20
> --------
> In message <20200129222907.3ccaf4c23fe8509e3f9cdfe4@bidouilliste.net>, =
Emmanuel Vadot writes:
>=20
>>> RPi's are a LOT easier to get hold of for hackers and in particular
>>> for educators.
>>=20
>> In what way ?
>> Real answer only.
>=20
> 1. Schools can get them through their usual suppliers of educational
>   material, with a pretty decent discount, and with educational
>   courses and materials, pretty much ready to go.
>=20
> 2. Most "maker-space" atuned electronics pushers carry them.
>=20
> 3. Big electronics pushers carry them.
>=20
> In re 1-3: No customs processing of shipment involved.
>=20
> 4. Cost, including shipping is below "trivial" threshold in most
>   organizations.

RPi zero in particular is cheap enough to treat as a component.

> --=20
> Poul-Henning Kamp       | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20
> phk@FreeBSD.ORG         | TCP/IP since RFC 956
> FreeBSD committer       | BSD since 4.3-tahoe   =20
> Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by =
incompetence.

--
Bob Bishop
rb@gid.co.uk







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