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Date:      Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:40:28 -0500 (EST)
From:      Chuck Robey <chuckr@chuckr.org>
To:        "Daniel O'Connor" <doconnor@gsoft.com.au>
Cc:        Kenneth Culver <culverk@yumyumyum.org>, "Wilkinson,Alex" <Alex.Wilkinson@dsto.defence.gov.au>, <hackers@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: [hardware] Tagged Command Queuing or Larger Cache ?
Message-ID:  <20021028213317.Y45658-100000@april.chuckr.org>
In-Reply-To: <1035857031.77698.57.camel@chowder.localdomain>

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On 29 Oct 2002, Daniel O'Connor wrote:

> On Tue, 2002-10-29 at 01:54, Kenneth Culver wrote:
> > > I haven't had any trouble with the WDxxxBB drives - the WDxxxAA drives
> > > are pretty unreliable though.
> > >
> > Hrmm, I havn't tried those, but just about every WD drive I've used has
> > ended up with problems which were of course handled by the warranty, but
> > even then, I still had to reinstall the os and pull a bunch of stuff from
> > my backups which was a pain to do for each failure. Like I said, just my
> > personal experience. I don't think the new 8MB cache drives have been out
> > long enough to actually develop the problems I've seen on WD drives
> > though.
>
> Yes, but my point is that the AA drives are bad, but the BB drives seem
> good. I have been using them for a while (~1 year) without trouble.
>
> I believe the JB drives are much more closely related to the BB drives
> (ie effectively identical but with a bigger cache).
>
> Personally I find that no HD manufacturer has a good reputation - they
> have all made trashy drives at one point. Give the general time it takes
> for problems to surface vs product lifetimes makes deciding what to buy
> a PITA :(

No, I'd take issue with that, hitting on all HD mfrs in general, it has
more to do with the technology, and the focus of the market it's aimed at.
In general, SCSI drives have a far better rep than the IDE drives.  That
probably has to do with the market sector they focus on.  With one
exception (a heat problem I probably must blame on myself doing some
learning) I've had no problems with scsi drives, and I beat hell out of
them.

I guess if you *must* run IDE, then run raid arrays.  If you don't run
either, then you can't complain if you buy the cheapest and don't get the
best reliability.

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Chuck Robey         | Interests include C & Java programming, FreeBSD,
chuckr@chuckr.org   | electronics, communications, and signal processing.

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