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Date:      Mon, 14 Jul 2014 02:46:26 +0200
From:      Michelle Sullivan <michelle@sorbs.net>
To:        Baptiste Daroussin <bapt@FreeBSD.org>
Cc:        olli hauer <ohauer@gmx.de>, ports@FreeBSD.org, "Bjoern A. Zeeb" <bzeeb-lists@lists.zabbadoz.net>
Subject:   Re: Apache 2.4 must become default NOW
Message-ID:  <53C32862.601@sorbs.net>
In-Reply-To: <20140706231559.GB8523@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net>
References:  <0E822D68-96E1-4328-9D00-1ADBF5671699@lists.zabbadoz.net> <53B9CD64.3010707@gmx.de> <20140706231559.GB8523@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net>

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Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 07, 2014 at 12:27:48AM +0200, olli hauer wrote:
>   
>> On 2014-07-05 19:09, Bjoern A. Zeeb wrote:
>>     
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> given ports@ ist listed as maintainer, you get the email.  The Subject says it.  The world has moved on;  in March I had a hard time arguing, in July I just cannot anymore.  We must switch to 2.4;  whatever breaks needs fixing, but somehow other distributions have managed and we did not and keep screwing our users missing a lot of security features.
>>>
>>> Please fix!
>>>
>>> — 
>>> Bjoern A. Zeeb             "Come on. Learn, goddamn it.", WarGames, 1983
>>>       
>> Hi Bjoern,
>>
>> nothing against this change, except your complain comes a little bit late.
>>
>> The portstree was already tagged for 9.3 some days ago so this change would be a possible issue for all users using the 9.3 packages.
>>
>> Before the default version can be changed a full expr. run by portmgr@ is required and all possible issues should be fixed.
>>
>> Unluckily we have a rolling ports tree (not like RHEL and others where such a change happens during new major releases) so there should be also a time frame to warn users about such a change.
>>
>> I remember endless discussions about the removal of apache13 after it was already deprecated nearly one year after upstream deprecation ...
>>     
>
> Just provide the patch for the change and warn the user about the change, now,
> just do not MFH it to the quarterly branch, so the user willing to keep apache22
> for a while can live on the quarterly branch for the next 3 months :)
>
> I don't see the problem for the people using 9.3 packages, if they want
> stability they will stay on quarterly branch which still provides by default
> apache22 for 3 month.
>
> Hopefully when pkg 1.3 will land we will be able to add new feature to the ports
> tree aka build the apache module for all supported apache version leading to
> anyone using package being able to chose the apache version they what whatever
> the default is (but we are not there yet :))
>   

One would have hoped that mod_perl2 would have had this removed first:

.if ${APACHE_VERSION} > 22
BROKEN= Does not build with apache24
.endif

Just my small (557 packages) build set:

====>> Skipped ports: devel/bugzilla44 devel/p5-Log-Dispatch
www/p5-Apache-DBI www/p5-HTML-Mason www/p5-HTML-Mason-PSGIHandler
www/p5-MasonX-Profiler www/p5-RT-Authen-ExternalAuth www/p5-libapreq2
www/rt40


Michelle

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Michelle Sullivan
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