Date: Tue, 15 Oct 1996 19:28:04 -0500 (EST) From: "John S. Dyson" <toor@dyson.iquest.net> To: jkh@time.cdrom.com (Jordan K. Hubbard) Cc: jdw@wwwi.com, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: IP bugs in FreeBSD 2.1.5 Message-ID: <199610160028.TAA06629@dyson.iquest.net> In-Reply-To: <14388.845423958@time.cdrom.com> from "Jordan K. Hubbard" at Oct 15, 96 04:59:18 pm
next in thread | previous in thread | raw e-mail | index | archive | help
> > > It's just that when someone says "I have a problem," and the answer is > > "We fixed that in the version you shouldn't use." That is like saying > > "Have this yummy cupcake," and then putting the cupcake behind 2 inches > > of plexiglass with "WARNING: hard hat area; experts only" painted on it. > > This is a valid point, and I'll agree with you that some folks > probably should be a little *less* willing to suggest running 2.2 to > anyone who comes forward with a problem which we know we've fixed in > the -current branch. I do it myself, and it's damn easy to forget > this when one's perspective of -current is so much different than the > "party line" being expressed on the web pages. > I am one of the worst offenders at making 2.2-current not safe to use :-), but note that at work, I have NO control over which version of FreeBSD that we are using and only a little influence. In my production environment at work, they won't even think about touching -current, and stick with 2.1.x+patches. The reason isn't that they can't fix it (I can fix almost any problem that I can reproduce.) It is that they don't want to spend resources (me) keeping up with the latest -current, simple as that. So, I am "punished" having to use 2.1.5 at work, when I use U**X, but I also don't get hassled all of the time about something that I broke with my other, FreeBSD hat on :-). I believe that -current is okay to use in production, but it means that the user has to manage his/her own release engineering and be much more consious of quality control issues. In essence, I think that FreeBSD-current is more expensive to run, and for some people the generally improved operation of the system justifies the cost. I guess that I am just letting you know that I have the same problem that alot of users of 2.1.x do... 2.1.x is good, but 2.2 (or whatever) will be significantly better (and can't wait to use it at work :-))... John dyson@freebsd.org
Want to link to this message? Use this URL: <https://mail-archive.FreeBSD.org/cgi/mid.cgi?199610160028.TAA06629>