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Date:      Mon, 6 Jul 1998 00:39:06 +0000
From:      "Frank Pawlak" <fpawlak@execpc.com>
To:        Greg Lehey <grog@lemis.com>, Wes Peters <wes@softweyr.com>, jasone@canonware.com, smoergrd@oslo.geco-prakla.slb.com
Cc:        freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Microsoft's breaches of contract (was: FBSD license and multiple copyright holders)
Message-ID:  <980706003906.ZM4836@darkstar.connect.com>
In-Reply-To: Greg Lehey <grog@lemis.com> "Re: Microsoft's breaches of contract (was: FBSD license and multiple copyright holders)" (Jul  5, 10:24am)
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On Jul 5, 10:24am, Greg Lehey wrote:
> Subject: Re: Microsoft's breaches of contract (was: FBSD license and multi
> On Saturday,  4 July 1998 at 16:59:41 +0000, Frank Pawlak wrote:
> > On Jul 4,  4:58pm, Greg Lehey wrote:
> >> Now if there's one thing that *really* pisses me off, it's that nobody
> >> has stopped Microsoft from shipping Internet Exploder because it is in
> >> breach of contract.  I would have hoped that Sun could say "ship it
> >> with correct Java, ship it without Java, or don't ship it".  If they
> >> can't get that done, I don't see that they can help us in what is
> >> primarily a matter of recognition.
> >>
> >> Greg
> >
> > Greg, arn't Sun and Microsoft presently in litigation over this very issue?
 I
> > know that SUN has brought suit against Microsoft for their bastardising of
> > Java, and I think that it also relates to IE as well.
>
> Yes, that's exactly the point.  What disappointed me was that they
> were not able to get an injunction stopping the delivery until it was
> conformant with the contract.
>
> Greg
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>-- End of excerpt from Greg Lehey

Sometimes the justice system in the US works in puzzling ways.  As I understand
it the DOJ had an injunction but it was overturned by a higher court.  I could
be wrong about this.

To the best of my recollection, Sun's case is going to trial in September.  SO
that is apparently is the next best shot to stop them from putting their shit
on the market.

Given the money that M$ has and the way the justice system works here, M$ could
well bankrupt Sun and the whole issue becomes moot.  Personally, I would love
to see Sun kick M$'s butt right over their shoulder.  Maybe it will be Caldera
that finally kicks M$'s butt. ;-)  Ray Norda has had a hardon for Bill Gates
for a long time now.

Frank


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