Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2015 14:20:59 +0000 From: David Chisnall <theraven@FreeBSD.org> To: Slawa Olhovchenkov <slw@zxy.spb.ru> Cc: Baptiste Daroussin <bapt@FreeBSD.org>, src-committers@freebsd.org, svn-src-all@freebsd.org, Gleb Smirnoff <glebius@FreeBSD.org>, svn-src-head@freebsd.org, Dmitry Sivachenko <demon@FreeBSD.org> Subject: Re: svn commit: r279603 - in head: bin/rcp usr.bin/rlogin usr.bin/rsh Message-ID: <63BD8258-D2C9-4C94-8A54-63AA104871D9@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <20150305141334.GX48476@zxy.spb.ru> References: <201503042201.t24M1jDG009278@svn.freebsd.org> <20150305114828.GK17947@FreeBSD.org> <20150305122103.GA90978@zxy.spb.ru> <20150305122359.GM17947@FreeBSD.org> <20150305123016.GO48476@zxy.spb.ru> <20150305123053.GN17947@FreeBSD.org> <20150305123349.GP48476@zxy.spb.ru> <20150305123548.GO17947@FreeBSD.org> <48981079-C9B7-411D-87A3-5A8F04924314@FreeBSD.org> <AEB33C6A-8824-4345-81E1-95280AB20CFA@FreeBSD.org> <20150305141334.GX48476@zxy.spb.ru>
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On 5 Mar 2015, at 14:13, Slawa Olhovchenkov <slw@zxy.spb.ru> wrote: >=20 > Not better, no. Does telnet support creating server sockets? No. =20 Does telnet support IPsec? No. Does telnet let you specify the tcp window size? No. Does telnet come with a massive selection of options for insecure login = / authentication? Yes. Telnet is a tool for insecure remote access. nc is a tool for creating = and debugging socket connections. > telnet more verbose (and by default and more). 'nc -v' is less to type than 'telnet' and provides *more* debugging = support via -D. > And what about 'tools, not policy'? What about it? We provide a tool that *is designed for creating and = debugging sockets*. You instead want a tool for insecure remote login = that happens to sort-of work for creating and debugging sockets and your = justification for wanting it is that you can use it for debugging = sockets. =46rom your previous posts, you've clearly not read the nc man page and = have absolutely no idea what it is capable of. Why not spent five = minutes learning about the tool that we provide that is *designed = specifically for your requirements* and then suggest places where it = could be improved for your needs, rather than insisting that we provide = you with a hammer so that you can keep bashing screws into walls? David
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